Talk:Second breakfast

Different countries

In Spain (and apparently Mexico, but I cannot confirm this) we have what would be called Second Breakfast. The Spanish name is "Almuerzo", eaten around 11am and it normally consists of a sandwich or similar taken in the morning break (for both school and work). However it's significantly different from the one described as you'd never eat a Sausage here.

I can also see that the North American's second breakfast is also included into the Details, however it's not inside the Summary. On the other hand, Vienna's second breakfast is in the summary but not in the details. I propose to format it so that each country/area has it's own section. There would be four sections (so far):

• Bavaria, Poland and Hungary (tízórai)
• North America
• Spain (Almuerzo)
• Vienna (Jause) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Franciscopresencia (talk • contribs) 01:54, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

That is mentioned in the page elevenses. --TyNoOutlet (talk) 15:13, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

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What is this meal called in German? Is it normal to see a direct translation - something like "Zweites Fruhstuck" (but with umlauts)? Pcb21 Pete 10:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Does this mean Germans are like hobbits? 171.159.64.10 01:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

No, not like, they are hobbits. Have you ever seen a german over 4 and a half feet tall? -M^ask 02:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Arnold Schwartzenegger and Michael Schumacher. Anyway, does Second Breakfast relate in any way to brunch? 67.188.172.165 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

The term "zweites Frühstück" is not a common German expression, see my comments below. It will, however, be understood as something after the regular breakfast, as "second breakfast" will be understood in English. (Btw, Schwarzenegger is Austrian.) 78.52.243.227 (talk) 05:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Lord of the rings

does anyone have a copy of the fellowship of the ring? if the novel was also sighted, then that pesky unreferenced tag would not beable to come back Ryan shell 23:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Tolkien does not describe hobbits as preferring seven meals per day, but six. It is the movie that has a line of dialogue listing seven meals.138.251.240.149 (talk) 21:38, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

What fast is being broken?

The name "second breakfast" doesn't really make sense - breakfast is literally when you break your fast. If you have a second one, then you are no more breaking a fast than you would be by the other meals of the day.

Is it just a loan translation of the German and Polish names, where the word for "breakfast" doesn't seem to be formed in the same way as ours, or has the term come to us by another route? — Smjg (talk) 18:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, when you don't eat, then you're fasting. So any meal is actually a "break-fast". And with the roughly 1 mil Google hits I get for "Second breakfast" the term seems to be established. There are companies and even a font that are called Second Breakfast. De728631 (talk) 18:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

@Smjg: Indeed, the German translation "Frühstück" literally means "early-piece", so has nothing to do with fasting. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 16:30, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Zweites Frühstück

"Zweites Frühstück" literally means "second breakfast" in German. However, I have never come across the term "zweites Frühstück" here in Germany. In some parts of Southern Germany (and Austria?) the concept (!) might be common, but the term would then certainly be "Zwischenmahlzeit" (Standard German, literally "in-between-meal"), "Brotzeit" or "Jause". 78.52.243.227 (talk) 05:32, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I am from Nordfriesland and I grew up with that term. Must be another thing attributed to the Weißwurstäquator. De728631 (talk) 19:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean the term "zweites Frühstück," "Zwischenmahlzeit," "Brotzeit," or "Jause"? Colin McLarty (talk) 14:34, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

it's been common among the higher classes till the early 20ieth century, eg it's a recurring theme in novels by Thomas Mann, often called Gabelfrühstück (literally fork-breakfast--because warm dishes may be served). same in France, where it's known as déjeuner à la fourchette. --tickle me 02:58, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

"Zweites Frühstück" is sometimes known, but it's also called Gabelfrühstück (if including cooked meals such as white sausage), Frühschoppen (if on a Sunday or holiday and including an alcoholic beverage), Große Pause (big break) at school, Brotzeit perhaps sometimes at work (if including bread) and so forth. The military knows it as the "NATO break", because a myth has it that it is observed all over the NATO at the same time.--2001:A61:260C:C01:AD73:5A07:A016:FE2C (talk) 09:35, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Jause

Does Jause have multiple meanings? When I was in Austria, Jause was used for a meal of coffee and cake after lunch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.201.220.243 (talk) 07:44, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Time?

The page says it is eaten around 11:00, but then the time-specific names are 10:00. If it really is eaten at 11:00, shouldn't this page's content be moved to elevenses? --TyNoOutlet (talk) 15:14, 16 January 2020 (UTC)