Talk:Seu'ula Johansson-Fua

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that Seu'ula Johansson-Fua is Director of the Institute of Education in Tonga and has expanded the use of the pacific dialogue style talanoa to include teaching in schools? Source: Prescott, S. M., & Johansson Fua, S. (2016, July). Enhancing Educational Success Through Talanoa : A Framework for the Pacific. A. Kautoke (Ed.), Vaka Pasifiki Education Conference (pp.1-27).

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 11:14, 16 June 2020 (UTC).

• New enough, long enough, well referenced—although primary refs such as the subject's own papers are being used to verify facts. No close paraphrasing seen.
• My main problem with the article is that it speaks briefly and in generalities about all kinds of subjects. There needs to be a more structured approach to introducing and describing each project she works on. I did a little editing and reorganizing, but I still find the presentation full of generalities (like In 2018 she launched a Network for Educational Research which brought together education ministries from a variety of Pacific countries ... to further collaborative research and understanding) and not well explained concepts (She has described how the concept of Faka’apa’apa guides ideas of leadership in Tonga—why are we suddenly talking about leadership?). What I'm saying is that you as the writer need to add topic sentences and guide the presentation into logical paragraphs and topics. The lead is also too short; it needs more mention of her notability other than being director of an institute. I have added a "clarification needed" tag to one sentence that should probably be reworked from the point of view of English grammar.
• The hook reads like a resume. It would be hookier to just pull one fact out of the article to catch reader's interest, and then they can learn what position she holds when they click on the article.
• No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much for comments and the time you've taken @Yoninah: I'll do a little clear up today - I think all your points are totally valid. You know what it's like when you've got your head in a page! Thanks for the help! (Lajmmoore (talk) 07:37, 21 June 2020 (UTC))

ALT1 ... that Seu'ula Johansson-Fua is the keeper of the ‘Kukū Kaunaka’ Collection, which is an archive of MA and PhD dissertations written by scholars from Tonga based at universities around the world?

Hope this ALT1 works better @Yoninah:? Thanks again for the help - I've addressed all the points you raised in a string of edits to the article! (Lajmmoore (talk) 07:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC))

• Thank you, the page looks much better! I added a bit more to the lead and tweaked the language a bit. ALT1 is definitely hooky but I would suggest writing it this way, as in the article:
• ALT1a: ... that Seu'ula Johansson-Fua is the keeper of the Kukū Kaunaka Collection, an archive of doctoral and masters dissertations written by Tongan scholars based at universities around the world?
• ALT1a hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT1a good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much! (Lajmmoore (talk) 16:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC))