Talk:Sharon Dolev

@ForsythiaJo: Two questions:

1. I added an inline citation for the first paragraph. Are there any other claims that need inline citations?

2. I expect to be able to get a photograph of Dolev later this week. If I do, I plan to upload it to Wikimedia Commons and link to it from the Wikidata entry on her. After I do that, the photo should automatically appear if we use the infobox construct I used:

{{infobox organization/Wikidata | fetchwikidata=ALL | suppressfields=flag official_language | onlysourced=on | noicon=on | dateformat=mdy }}

Will that happen with the change you made, replacing my "infobox" code with {{infobox bio}}?

Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 19:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Honestly as it stands I believe the article has sources for all the claims, so that template could probably be removed. However, I would recommend seeing if you could find more independent sources discussing Dolev; she is mentioned briefly in the 3 news articles, but that likely isn't enough to confirm notability.

Also, if you weren't already planning to, I think the Israeli Disarmament Movement could have its own article, based on the more extensive news coverage of their actions.

I've just returned the initial infobox you added, with the specification person instead of organization, so afaik that should allow for the photo to be imported from Wikimedia Commons ForsythiaJo (talk) 20:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@ForsythiaJo: Why are you insisting on changing the style of references? I'm following the style described by Wikipedia:Citing sources, except that I called the "References" section "Bibliography" and put it before rather than after the "Notes".

??? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 20:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

In my experience, the biblography/notes style tends to work better for scientific/historical articles, where one source is being cited multiple times, often with different pages. For an article like this, where a source is only being cited once, or doesn't need to specify by page, I've found a straight reference style is more intuitive and easily navigatable. But if you prefer the bibliography/notes style, I won't fight on it being switched back. ForsythiaJo (talk) 20:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@ForsythiaJo: Thanks for fixing my error with the infobox.

Regarding creating a separate article on the Israeli Disarmament Movement, I thought about that. However, it made more sense to me to create this article first. I disagree with the comment that, "she is mentioned briefly in the 3 news articles": She was the primary instigator for the events covered in those three articles published in Al Jazeera, +972 Magazine, and The Jerusalem Post. She was organizing events for what became the Israeli Disarmament Movement before that name was used, as documented in Dolev (2010), which appeared in the Palestine-Israel Journal.

She was also organizing events and pressuring public officials to move the agenda on a WMD-Free Middle East before there was the Middle East Treaty Organization (METO). The Wikipedia article on METO says it was founded in 2017, but I cannot find documentation of that. The article in The Jerusalem Post was dated 2017-12-25, talking about Dolev and events that drove the creation of METO without mentioning that name;-)

I'll look for other articles about the Israeli Disarmament Movement. DavidMCEddy (talk) 20:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Contest speedy deletion

@TheTechie and CactusWriter: I do not see a button to contest speedy deletion. Maybe it disapeared after User:CactusWriter clicked it. I do not have time now to research, but I will. DavidMCEddy (talk) 22:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy No, CactusWriter declined it. If you reply here, please ping me. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 22:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@TheTechie: Could you please explain why this qualifies at all for speedy deletion?

Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion says, "Users nominating a page for speedy deletion should specify which criterion/criteria the page meets". Please do this.

Before I created this article, Dolev had already been mentioned as the executive director of the Middle East Treaty Organization (METO) in the Wikipedia article on that subject. As the founding executive director of an NGO that already by itself qualified for its own Wikipedia article, I would think that should count for notability, though perhaps not as much as articles in Al Jazeera and The Jerusalem Post.

I wrote this article to highlight things she has done for which she has been recognized. In addition to articles published in Al Jazeera, +972 Magazine, and The Jerusalem Post that mention her, I also cited recognition she has obtained from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists and the International Peace Bureau plus articles she got published in Palestine-Israel Journal.

In reviewing Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, I don't find anything that comes close to applying here. The criterion that closest may be Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G11. Unambiguous advertising or promotion. However, everything included in this article was included to support the claim that she is a notable "peace and human rights activist". DavidMCEddy (talk) 02:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@TheTechie and CactusWriter: In my judgment, the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Loves Women was created in part because on average women receive less credit in the media than men for equivalent accomplishments. I just added a quote from Bremmer (2013) where Dolev replied to a question about that. DavidMCEddy (talk) 13:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

It apparently doesn't b/c it was declined. If you reply here, please ping me. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 14:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Response given at User talk:DavidMCEddy#CSD process. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 16:01, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@CactusWriter: Thanks for the reply.

Does that mean this article is not likely to be challenged later, claiming that the subject is not sufficiently notable? DavidMCEddy (talk) 17:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page in order to keep this talk page focused on the article content. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 22:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)