Talk:Siberian Tatar language

Siberian Tatar language

Siberian Tatar langauge. LANGUAGE.

Dialect as Siberian Tatar dialect, the dialect of the no. It is langauge, Siberian Tatar language.

In modern academic linguistics, there are several views on the language of the Siberian Tatars. The vast majority of researchers who have directly studied the languages of the Siberian Tatars define them as dialects of the Tatar language. Some of them distinguish the language of the Baraba Tatars as a separate language. Some researchers (mostly ethnographers, not linguists) single out the Siberian-Tatar language as a separate language. The article reflects only one point of view, which was the result of several vandal edits: [1], [2], [3]. I would take on the revision of the article, but what should I do if vandalism resumes? Тангичи (talk) 13:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Siberian Tatar language

Sorry, but Siberian Tatar language, officially, is not a dialect of Tatar language. Siberian Tatar language is internationally recognized independent language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sıbır-el (talk • contribs) 06:57, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Sybyr language (Siberian Tatar language)

Sybyr (Siberian Tatar) is not dialect of Tatar language (kazan tatar). Correct please. Sybyr (Siberian Tatar) language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.186.42.58 (talk) 15:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Among the linguists involved in the language of the Siberian Tatars, there are three opinions. And all three must be described. Repeatedly occurring on this page is deleting alternative points of view is reminiscent of the vandalism. There is an opinion that the language of the Siberian Tatars is a dialect or a group of dialects of the Tatar language. This opinion, by the way, is most often found in the linguistic literature. There is an opinion that we are talking about several related languages of Siberian Tatars. This point of view is not so common, but not rare. There is a point of view that this is a separate and unified language – I know only about two linguists who adhere to this interpretation. However, this view definitely exists. Of course, the language of the Siberian Tatars is not a dialect of the Kazan (middle) dialect of the Tatar language – there is no such point of view in linguistics.Üzgäreş (talk) 13:37, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Попугг, You delete my edits under the pretext that the research given in them is outdated. However, among the studies I have cited there are fundamental ones that laid the foundation for the study of Siberian-Tatar idioms — it is relatively old (cause it did not happened yesterday), and there are studies of recent years. No one bothers you to add links to studies that are close to you. Moreover, it seems that the only relevant link to the study, highlighting the Siberian-Tatar language as a separate language, was added here by me and you delete it with your cancellations. Instead, you are ascribing your opinion to D. G. Tumasheva, which is completely inappropriate.Üzgäreş (talk) 10:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Move

Siberian tatar language‎ [lower case] → Siberian Tatar language‎ [upper case] --Kmoksy (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Siberian Tatar language: Revision history

Revision history of Siberian Tatar language movable to this page. --Kmoksy (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

The removing of sources

Please do not remove sources. Because, this is a vandalism! --Kmoksy (talk) 11:06, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Usable sources

• Andrey Yurevich Letyagin, Yulia Aleksandrovna Ganenko, Nikolay Sergeevich Urtegeshev. Anatomic and functional muscular mechanisms of a voice path’s forming at pronouncing of authentic vowels of the Siberian Tatar language according to the magnetic resonance tomography.
• Flera Sagitovna Sayfulina, Irina Sovetovna Karabulatova, Ferits Yusupovich Yusupov and Ilgam Gusmanovich Gumerov 2013. Contemporary Issues of Textual Analysis of Turkic-Tatar Literary Monuments of Western Siberia. World Applied Sciences Journal 27 (Education, Law, Economics, Language and Communication): 492-496.
• Себер татарлары көне : November 29, Day of Siberian-Tatar language to be held in Tyumen city.

--Kmoksy (talk) 11:56, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Article Language

The English language in this article is horrible. Perhaps a native speaker could rewrite it? 46.242.8.44 (talk) 15:32, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

clip-clop

Professor Gabdulkhay Akhatov first among the scientists discovered in the Speech of the Siberian Tatars is such a thing as clip-clop Does anyone have an idea what that is supposed to mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yupanqui (talk • contribs) 08:51, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

I think that the author tried to say that in the Siberian dialects of the Tatar language the sound "Ч"(ch) often turns into "Ц"(c). This is what G. H. Akhatov wrote.Üzgäreş (talk) 10:37, 27 December 2018 (UTC) • Funny!

Language name among its speakers

A recent edit has claimed that the local name for this language is not себертатар, but rather себер тел or татар тел. The prior name was sourced (to Русско–сибирскотатарский словарь / Урысца–себертатарца сүслек (ISBN 978-5930204414)) while the new version is not sourced. In this same series of edits, the user has change the entries of several of the Latin letter forms to Cyrillic. I know nothing about this language, so I can't really evaluate this change, but it seems unlikely that only two Cyrillic letter forms would remain in an otherwise Latinized version of this language. Can any expert chime in? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:35, 18 November 2022 (UTC)