Talk:Sicario: Day of the Soldado

I think the plot summary is inaccurate

The plot summary states that the teenager purposely saved Allejandro's life by not shooting him in the brain. I disagree. I think he DID try to kill him and was surprised when he showed up a year later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:3B01:41E0:DE4:3678:15A2:295D (talk) 22:53, 29 June 2018 (UTC) The boy tried to kill him and failed. He regretet after that.

and one more thing. 2 of the 3 ISIS suicidebomber were from New Jersey. One was from the border. correct that please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.217.6.242 (talk) 16:29, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

You're literally the soccer mom character from the movie, lol

Dariusz Wolski confirmation?

There's no citation for Wolski as the cinematographer, and I can't find any news articles that mention his involvement. Is there any official confirmation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.141.239 (talk) 05:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 7 March 2017

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The result of the move request was: Move the film to Soldado and the dab page to Soldado (disambiguation). We have consensus that the former is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. There were several suggestions about what to do with the dab page, which may be worth a separate RM, but for now I think moving to the "default" position at (disambiguation) is the best bet. Cúchullain ^t/c 20:13, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

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• Soldado (film) → Soldado
• Soldado → Soldado (surname)

– This is the only topic directly called "Soldado". The disambiguation page only has partial title matches as seen here. Surnames can be put on a surname page, and the other partial title matches should be removed per the partial title matches guideline. The surname page can have the wiktionary template. See Sleight for a similar approach in which the film article replaced the disambiguation page. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 16:28, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose it's not the only topic. And not sure that Sleight would suggest a film either, it seems to simply be the same as Sleight of hand. Now it's been moved to (surname), but if it had been moved to (disambiguation) might have been better. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:51, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

  You're endorsing the partial title matches when they go against the guideline. Buen Soldado means "Good Soldier". We would not have "Good Soldier" on the disambiguation page for soldier. "Soldado De Papel" means "Paper Soldier", which we would not have on that disambiguation page either. It is particularly Western-biased to consider these clearly distinct topics to be sufficiently under just "Soldado" just because they all have the same word. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 21:55, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Soldado Rock, aka Soldado island, should not be removed from the dab. I was thinking more of El Soldado, Los Soldados, O Soldado, Os Soldados, not examples like Buen Soldado which if it is that significant would belong down in the see also. Having said that, I'm somewhat surprised to see that there aren't many topics simply called "soldier" in Spanish and Portuguese. Intuitively it seems dubious to make an upcoming film the absolute majority meaning of the Spanish and Portuguese word for Soldier. Can we not see if the film is successfully released first? In ictu oculi (talk)

• Support. There is no other article on WP than can reasonably be titled Soldado. Soldado (island) is a redirect created today to Soldado Rock. There is no evidence in that article that the rock is ever called simply Soldado, and in any case that article get 1/2 of 1% of the 1,000+ pageviews this film is averaging per day. Station1 (talk) 23:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Please look in books, it was formerly called Soldado. And is still called Soldado in the context of the Soldado oilfield. It shouldn't be removed from the dab page simply because a film is coming out. In any case it isn't a (surname). In ictu oculi (talk) 23:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

If there's a reference that the rock is called Soldado, it should be added to the article. If it is, then the current dab page can be moved to Soldado (disambiguation) rather than "(surname)". But in either case, the film is either the only topic or the overwhelming WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - Station1 (talk) 23:57, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The same is true of the Sleight dab page - it shouldn't really have been moved to Sleight (surname) to make way for the film when Sleight (disambiguation) is a better option. Except that Sleight meaning Sleight of hand is more notable/natural than the upcoming Sleight (film). In ictu oculi (talk) 07:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

• Support Soldado (film) → Soldado per nom and Station1, but Soldado should probably go to to Soldado (disambiguation) rather than Soldado (surname), though having both (or should I say all three?) is also acceptable. --В²C ☎ 02:25, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

*Oppose. Once a disambiguation page is created and especially when such a page contains a considerable number of entries, the burden to demonstrate that one of those entries is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is a substantial one. The as-yet-unreleased film may prove to be a widely-publicized success, or not. The nomination can be revisited at a later date when more information becomes available. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 11:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

• There are not "a considerable number of entries" because there is no reason to count unlinked or red-linked entries against the film, which is the only topic called "Soldado" that has an article. It does not matter if the film is a success or not, it has already proven notable. You would need to make other entries blue-linked so there is actually a contest. Ultimately, the film is uncontested and therefore the primary topic. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Since the most common entry within the dab page is El Soldado, I would support the move Soldado → El Soldado and then Soldado (film) → Soldado. All the entries on the dab page could thus still occupy their present positions and the page would not have to bear the qualifier "(disambiguation)". As a related note, renaming the dab page "Soldado (surname)", would then create the need for a separate dab page containing Soldado Rock, also known as "Soldado" and all the "El Soldado" and "Los Soldados" entries. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 00:22, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, I like this idea! In ictu oculi, Station1, Born2cycle, thoughts? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 00:32, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

No objection. The dab page is utterly unimportant. Neither a dab nor surname page need exist IMO. The important part of this proposal is to move the film. Station1 (talk) 03:10, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Soldado (disambiguation) is the logical place for Soldado, El Soldado, O Soldado, Soldados, Los Soldados. Os Soldados, moving it to El Soldado doesn't help readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:51, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

• Support Soldado → El Soldado and then Soldado (film) → Soldado per explanation above. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:09, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
• Support modified moves per Roman Spinner's argument above. It seems to work for me. If anyone else has qualms about it, feel free to share, and I'll consider revising my stance. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:58, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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Live satellite imaging?

Miguel abandons the gang and walks off by himself. Graver witnesses the apparent killing of Gillick through live satellite imaging and his team track down and eliminate the Mexican gang, rescuing Isabel.

It's been a while since I saw this film, but IIRC, they didn't use live satellite imaging, they used a wide-area surveillance sensor system, which is quite different. Am I right, or am I thinking of a different film? Viriditas (talk) 22:53, 2 August 2021 (UTC)