Talk:Silvia Baraldini

Biography

Maybe a translation from the Italian version of the article might help.Larunchia 09:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Indulto

Wow, this article is such a mess! Anyway, while I'm not familiar with U.S. criminal system, according to the pardon article, I think that the italian law that freed this woman could be better described as a clemency law. The difference in italian penal systems between amnistia(art. 151 italian penal code) and indulto (art. 174 ) is that the amnistia cancels the crime (as is it was never committed) while the indulto only changes (or shortens) the penalty.

Agree. But what I don't understand is how the Italian government can give either a pardon or clemency to a person convicted under U.S. law and only serving out her sentence in Italy.

Well, there is a hierarcy in law application. So if a national laws goes against an international agreement, well, it's the national law that ought to be respected. So an "indulto" applies itself to each prisoner i jeopardy except for some kinds of crimes I cannot list now. Signature: MarcellusPapirius in Italian Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.239.101.164 (talk) 01:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Now I can sign this post MarcelloPapirio (talk) 01:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

POV

The Old Buck has removed the COINTELPRO comment without a defense and has made numerous other edits that add nothing to the article but POV slant (e.g. replacement of almost every instance the word "activist" with "communist"). I'd like to see sources here in general, but sources for these edits are absolutely necessary. I have so far been unable to find any objective source linking her to Communism or the American Communist Party. I'm not going to edit that information until I find conclusive evidence to the contrary, but remember that people are relying upon this article to be a source of information, not a soapbox. Let's not let them down. Fearwig 00:49, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Update: The COINTELPRO stuff may need to be sourced, but so does every accusation of communism. It is a historical fact that a revolutionary group did expose COINTELPRO via the raid of an FBI office in PA (or was it MA?), and it should be determined whether or not Baraldini is said to have been involved. It should additionally be determined whether she made any self-descriptions of communism, or whether others made these assessments--if others made them, that should be clear in the article, and it doesn't necessarily qualify the subject for categorization as an American/Italian communist. Not every (or even most) 1960s radicals were self-described communists (in that they supported the system of the Soviets --which was by then more or less debunked as totalitarian even to most radicals--or in that they advocated a commune-based social structure). Fearwig 14:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree, this article is definitely POV. --Twilight 03:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Penalty in Italy for same crimes

1. For racketeering and conspiracy under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) statutes for her participation in a terrorist group, the Black Liberation Army.

In Italy from 10 to more years.

1. For conspiring to commit two armored truck robberies.

From 5 to 10 years

1. For her involvement in the prison break of convicted murderer and Black Liberation Army leader Joanne Chesimard, a.k.a. Assata Shakur.

From 5 to 10 years

1. For contempt of court after refusing to surrender the names of members of the May 19th Communist Movement.

No penalty in Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Il Moderato (talk • contribs) 22:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

TOTAL from 20 to 25 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Il Moderato (talk • contribs) 22:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC) --Il Moderato (talk) 22:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Which Barrington Parker?

This article cites to the one about Barrington Parker, Jr. saying he was the judge who ruled on prison isolation lawsuit. But Barrington Parker, Jr. did not become a judge until 1994.

Baraldini's prison lawsuit was back in 1988. http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1988/Ruling-Says-Prison-Officials-Can-t-Isolate-Radical-Inmates/id-e1e59e550f6825f7f21b7e8fd0a0cf22

Maybe it was Barrington Parker, Sr. who was the judge for her prison lawsuit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrington_Daniels_Parker,_Sr.

He was a serving judge during 1988. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:39C3:50F0:ADED:C954:3407:B147 (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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