Talk:Simona Halep

Breast reduction removed

• Note - this is a current continuation from an 8 1/2 year old dead thread located at Simona Halep Archive 1. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

And now I see that her breast reduction has been removed...again...from the article, because apparently the Daily Mail and obvious photographic evidence are apparently not reliable sources. Whether or not the breast reduction is noteworthy enough to be mentioned could be a matter of debate, but whether or not it took place isn't a debate -- her breast reduction is a simple undeniable fact. 209.90.140.72 (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

It should be added again and the current state of mentioning her nose operation but not her breast reduction is almost comical. While it is fair to argue that such a topic shouldn't be sourced with the Daily Mail, it is hardly a good reason to remove the content as there are plenty of other sources available. Moreover the subject is directly related to her tennis career as she was suffering from back issues due to her relatively large breast (for a top athlete). Here are few other sources than the Daily Mail:

• https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tennis/news/Tennis_Interviews/55391/simona-halep-breast-reduction-was-her-biggest-sacrifice/
• https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/sport/Tennis-Mit-kleineren-Bruesten-zum-groesseren-Erfolg-id8446271.html (German newspaper, "greater success due to smaller breasts")
• https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/breast-reduction-saved-tennis-star-simona-haleps-career/news-story/2fc3b32074b531ac4898cb1af3ba77e2
• https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/24/simona-halep-breast-reduction-coach-_n_5524624.html
• https://abc7news.com/archive/9254622/
• https://au.news.yahoo.com/simona-halep-breast-reduction-surgery-turned-tennis-career-around-24132622.html?guccounter=1
• https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/simona-halep-enjoys-rapid-rise-up-the-rankings-9449381.html
• http://www.india.com/sports/tennis-ace-simona-halep-opted-to-reduce-boob-size-surgically-due-to-uncomfortable-weight-69159/
• https://books.google.de/books?id=4OrlDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA161
• https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/frenchopen/10861164/French-Open-2014-How-a-breast-reduction-helped-Simona-Halep-unleash-her-full-potential.html

--Kmhkmh (talk) 11:34, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

P.S. I'm seeing right now that it is actually mentioned in the current version (with a source other tan the Dasily Mail), I must have overlooked that earlier or accidentally looked at a past version.--Kmhkmh (talk) 12:08, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Personal life

Unmarried Fastiener (talk) 05:54, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Keepie uppie

Hello,

@Fyunck(click):, why do you still remove that info about Simona Halep? Can't we say she's also good at football? Like Djokovic? Christina (talk) 20:49, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Images in the article

How are pictures chosen for this article? An editor said that there should be max. 10 pics, and removed several pics. Pics need to be selected carefully, and must be not only good quality, but also representative of the subject, and non-repetitive. Currently, of 9 pis, 4 are from the French Open, which is clearly not OK. It is true that this is her most successful grand slam tournament, but this doesn't justify that nearly half of all the pics are from it. I think 2 pics from the French Open (from the 2008 Junior, and from 2018 - because she won these two editions, are sufficient). If you really need a third one, than it should be from the 2014 edition, because it was her first final (and there are some good pics from that edition in commons). And certainly there should be pics from the 2019 Wimbledon, as that's her most important win - I think such a pic should be in the lede. But currently, there are no such pics in commons, more pics need to be uploaded. And there should be one pic from Madrid Open too, as she has been very successful there.2A02:2F01:52FF:FFFF:0:0:6465:52F2 (talk) 16:06, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

The usual things that are talked about with tennis articles are the following: A serve, a forehand, a backhand, a volley, and a return. After that it's nice to have a trophy, perhaps something other than tennis, etc... 10 is a good number for the max photos for any large player biography. It's not etched in stone but it's in our guidelines. Most articles will contain far less. Federer and Serena Williams have an exceptionally large amount of material, and each has 11 pics. What we want is very high quality pics not a high quantity of pics. I agree that we want a variety of surfaces and if you find one you think is better then replace a poorer quality pic with the new one. As far as a pic in the lead, usually that is taken care of with the pic in the infobox. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 17:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• It contains copyright infringements - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page.- ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Links

• There are two links in the infobox, per WP:INFOBOXCITE could these be in prose? The one about the age is particularly bad as there are already cites about the age in prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Moved the "turned pro" one to the prose. The one for the age is really just for the whole infobox. There's no obvious place to put it. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Refs look good Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Seems like a lot of External links, the iMDB profile seems like a lot. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Removed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• . In total, she has been No. 1 for 64 weeks - could we link the whole of "No. 1 for 64 weeks"? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Ref in lede should be moved to prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Otherwise, lede is very good. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Main prose

• Should probably mention Constanța is in Romania. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Halep is a former world No. 1 junior. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• The Junior section comments on "grade", should probably be explained. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added note. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• First mention of "Grand Slam" should be linked. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Linked first mentions in junior section and pro section. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• career playing low-level $10K ITF Women's Circuit events in Romania in 2006 and 2007. - was the $10k part of the event title? Prize money seems like a weird thing for prose in this way. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Sort of. The $10K is the event tier. The WTA does use 125K as an official tier name for their $125,000 tournaments. The tiers with lower prize money don't have an official name, but they are still typically referred to by the prize money. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• she defeated No. 96 - presumably world number 96? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added an "abbr" to the first instance (this instance) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• There's a lot of this in the article, I'm not sure no. # is a suitible alternative for what we are discussing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • For tennis, it is standard practice to write "world number (ranking)" as "world No. (ranking)" or just "No. (ranking)", both on Wikipedia and in the press. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• 2013: Breakthrough, six WTA titles, world No. 11 - even if we kept this, we are in sentence case No should be lower case. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • In this format, "No." is always capitalized. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Could we get some alt text for the images. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• "With these two runner-ups, Halep moved up to No. 3" - MOS:NUM says we should use the word "three" instead of 3, etc. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • With this format, the number is never written out. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• , they only won one tie.[140][141][142][143] - beware of WP:REFBOMB, maybe remove a ref or two. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • I moved three of these to the middle of the sentence so the usage is more clear. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Halep has described herself as an aggressive baseliner. - perhaps explain what a baseliner is. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added a link to the appropriate page. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

The rest of the article looks very good, and well made/sourced. I will have to find out what the deal is with articles under pending changes reviews, as I've never come across one before. Placing on hold. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Lee Vilenski! I addressed everything above. The "world No. X" is a standard tennis format for writing out "world number xxxx". The pending changes thing is just a type of page protection (from many years ago; we probably don't need it any more). Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I'd just suggest either a note or a bracket commenting what No. # means. It should also be "no" in lowercase. Other than that, we're good to go. I have requested the removal of pending changes as it doesn't suit the article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:20, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I added a note in this format: "No." where it says "No. 96 Angelique Kerber". I could add a few more of these, but I don't want to do it everywhere. The capitalization is correct (see for instance this article or virtually any other tennis article). Thanks for removing the protection. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 06:59, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

No worries. In that case, all seems fine for passing. Good job. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:31, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Notes & References

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Links to wtatennis.club

The article currently has 7 links to www.wtatennis.club: Special:LinkSearch/https://www.wtatennis.club. My browser gives a security warning when I try to go to the site. No other Wikipedia pages link to it after I replaced 2 other links.[1][2] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:43, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I'll replace them. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 18:28, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. It looks like a mirror of wtatennis.com but I haven't found the pages there. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:36, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I was the one who had added them. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 21:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Provisional Suspension

The International Tennis Integrity Agency has today announced the provisional suspension of Simona Halep. I have linked a few sources including a response from the player that could come in useful for those seeking to update her page with this unfolding news.

(3) International Tennis Integrity Agency on Twitter: "Simona Halep (Romania) has been issued with a provisional suspension under the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme: https://t.co/HCrZDTMp6I" / Twitter

Simona Halep on Twitter: "https://t.co/bhS2B2ovzS" / Twitter

(3) Ben Rothenberg on Twitter: "BREAKING: Former #1 Simona Halep provisionally suspended by the International Tennis Integrity Agency for a positive test at this year's US Open. Halep had previously announced she was ending her season. https://t.co/BZND8VzyYf" / Twitter

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/tennis/simona-halep-provisionally-suspended-after-failing-drug-test-calls-it-hardest-match-of-my-life_sto9195864/story.shtml

Kxcii (talk) 13:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, consider using this statement from her former coach: https://www.instagram.com/p/CkDrPbNIsIf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Kxcii (talk) 16:50, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Simona Halep has been charged with a second doping offense by ITIA. Should a new subsection be created about the doping allegations and a reference included in the introduction (similar to Sharapova's page)? 2A02:A46E:43D9:1:6C43:D3BF:4B52:7A1B (talk) 22:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Contents

By looking at the contents, you wouldn't know she's been suspended for doping violations. This is due to the contents page being contracted and not showing subsections like it used to. This seems disingenous. What do other people think? MaskedSinger (talk) 15:02, 26 September 2023 (UTC)