Talk:Siri Fort

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Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 04:43, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

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• Size, date, image and hook ref are fine. Very cool hook. Law _{type! snype?} 22:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

• The sources don't look too reliable. Wiki's and stuff. 88.90.88.107 (talk) 01:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

• The sources in general are good, the problem is that the sources for the hook [1] [2] are to what look like user-editable websites. Nvvchar, do any of the other sources reference the origins of the name? It's another good article from you with a good hook, so it would be good to get this in! Bigger digger (talk) 08:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply Thanks for the clarifications. I was wondering as to which reference to delete/replace. I have removed the two references referred above and introduced a few more. I have given the explanation and extracts of some of the references below. I have made changes in the article references also. I hope the reply meets with the observations of the reviewers.--Nvvchar (talk) 03:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

a) New reference 1.

During his time as Sultan he also extended the Quwwat ul Islam Mosque,started the Alai Minar, a tower that was to be double in height of the Qutb Minar, and built the Alai Darwaza. He also constructed the fort of Siri, which

had previously been a military camp. He was once to rely on the strength of this fort as he was besieged for over two

months by Mongol armies. He was though eventually to defeat the Mongols and brought the army Generals back to the fort and had them executed by trampling them with elephants. His other lasting construction for the city of Delhi was the water tank near Siri Fort known as Hauz Khas.

b) Reference 2.

The Siri Fort foundation was laid by the Sultan Alau’d-Din Khilji in 1303. It was the first city to be originally built by the Muslims. It is laying spread over an area of about 1.70 sq. km. It is situated about 4.40 km in the north-east of the Qutb Minar. Siri was a circular city. In other words, its rubble-built high city-wall is roughly oval on plan. It is noteworthy to mention that some derelict structures in the village of Shahpur Jat still stands on the west as is shown in the Figure 3.

c) A Reference book. A publication of the INTACH book authored by Lucy Peck titled “Delhi: A Thousand Years of building” ( provides an excellent insight into Delhi built over 1000 years and it is an excellent guide to tourists visiting Delhi, Wiki may like to have it for its reference library) referenced in this article, on page 35 it states ( I am quoting abstracts since the book is not available in digitized format yet)

Alauddin had a reputation for unusually cruelty commonly crushing his enemies under the feet of elephants and building towers from the heads of the vanquished.

d) Another reference of a News paper article in the Times of India (One of India’s best English News papers) has also the following to state, under the quoted reference

Siri is the third city of Delhi and was built by Sultan Alaud-Din Khilji in 1303. The few remains of the city can be seen in the Siri Fort complex near the Asian Games Village area, east of Hauz Khas. Today, high rubble-built walls in stretches in the southern direction and western direction, some bastions and flame-shaped battlements are all that are left of the strong fortress city which compelled ferocious fighters like the Mongols to accept defeat. According to some historians, the city derives its name from the Hindi word ‘sir’ meaning head because about 8000 heads of Mongol soldiers were buried in the walls of the city.

e)New reference has the following text.

Siri is the second city of Delhi and was built by Sultan Alaud-Din Khilji in about 1303, to the north of Mehrauli. The few remains of the city can be seen in the Siri Fort complex near the Asian Games Village area, east of Hauz Khas. Visitors can reach the fort complex by either taking the Khel Gaon Marg on the west or Josip Broz Tito Marg on the east. High Rubble-built walls in stretches in the southern direction and western direction, some bastions and flame-shaped battlements are all that are left of the strong fortress city today which compelled ferocious fighters like the Mongols to accept defeat. The city derives its name from the Hindi word sir meaning head because about 8000 heads of Mongol soldiers were buried in the walls of the city.

The city was built on a large scale with palaces and other structures and had seven gates for the people to enter or exit the city. Though no remains of the structures have been found except the southeastern gate but it is said that the main palace of the fort was very beautiful and profusely decorated with precious gems and expensive stones. There are also some dilapidated structures belonging to the Khilji period in the Shahpur Jat village on the west. Among them the most popular is the ruins of Tohfewala Gumbad Masjid. The domed central apartment and the sloping wall of the mosque are the structures left for the visitor to admire the architectural style of the Khiljis.

• I have been able locate a book source, which is the following.--Nvvchar (talk) 06:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC) I am inserting as the first source and also in the legend section. I am sure that this would fully answer the review observations.

The text reads as quoted below.

Century passed before the first complete Muslim City of Delhi was built by Allauddin Khilji (AD 1296-1316). Having repelled Mongol riders, Allauddin walled his camp just north of Qila Rai Pithora and peopled it. Local legend in fact, traces the name of Siri to the 8000 heads – the Hindustani word for head is “Sir” – of defeated Mongols that were supposed to be embedded in the city walls.

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28.32,58.28N ; 77.13,24.05E 86.152.69.241 (talk) 17:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. BrainMarble (talk) 21:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

History Section

The history section is a mess could some one distill it that knows the subject better than I, or I might start cutting sections that are not directly relevant. For example, the discussion of the several dynasty are not directly relevant to this section, perhaps the builder or series of builders but not the entire background, it's inappropriate for a simple Encyclopedia Article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadads (talk • contribs) 18:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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This should not be C class the grammar and readability is miserable. SADADS (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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