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Copy/Paste much?

Why is it part of the beginning is basically copy/pasted later on? Shouldn't one or the other be removed, so as not to be redundant? 72.218.81.51 (talk) 23:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you clarify what you mean by "the beginning"? If you are referring to something stated in the intro paragraph, then it should be repeated later on. The intro is to act as a general overview/summary of what is included in the article. Blackngold29 23:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok...that seems odd that it would say the exact same thing, but...whatever... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.81.51 (talk) 02:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit

I did a first run-through edit, but I will be making a more complete edit in the near future.SkyllaLaFey (talk) 18:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Okay, someone has deleted my article on this page, whoever did it, you had every right, but come on, can't a guy say what he thinks? This is a public site. I'm sorry if I had put anything offensive in, I just think Slipknot are deathcore metal, not alternative metal, but people can have there opinions.

Actually nobody on this site can have opinions as to what the album should be classified as only verifiable info from reliable sources can be included. Blackngold29 18:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

ALERNATIVE METAL

why has it been removed again? i think it should be added again because: these sorces say they are alternative metal http://www.rockdetector.com/artist,8210.sm,http: and http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:dxfoxql5ldae~T1 some slipknot songs have no rap influence more complex riffs and guitar solos so wouln't count as nu metal or rap metal or heavy metal. they mix alot of diferant styles of metal and non metal music together. any thoughts?82.22.145.137 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

It was removed today by User:Bloodfall he stated "Alternative metal fits the elements of Nu metal, and not much of their music listed in this site is plain alternative metal" as his reason. I think it should be re-added, just because Wikipedia doesn't have articles about some of Slipknot's alt. metal songs doesn't mean they don't exist, and the goal of this page is to cover all of their music. Anyone else? Blackngold29 (talk) 01:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Alternative metal should stay, but I think that experimental metal/rock should be added as well. You know, to cover the styles of Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat. and a few extra songs as well. Dark Executioner (talk) 19:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Dark Executioner, Slipknot is in no way experimental. It would be an unsourced and erroneous statement. Experimental would be Fantômas, Isis or maudlin of the Well, not Slipknot. Please, stop trying to find new genres to apply to bands! Zouavman Le Zouave 19:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

So Slipknot mixing different genres into their music doesn't classify them as experimental? But yet Fantômas, Isis, and maudlin of the Well are, even though they just do the same thing? What's your criteria for this? If it's not mixing different genres, then what is it, creating instruments for their music? Because none of those 3 bands do that. Is it odd time signatures? Slipknot has done that too, just like those other bands. Tell me how you judge that, because right now I'm assuming you just have some really ass backwards double standards. Fantômas is mainly just a more recent Naked City, anyways, even though I like them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.37.67 (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The infobox does not need to include every genre of every song that the band has ever written. It is a simply a general overview for the purpose of quick reference. Slipknot, as we all know, has a very diverse music repertoire from practically every genre. We should only include the main genres. Blackngold29 (talk) 19:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, the infobox genres give a general overview, not thousands of genres that they might slightly sound like. I mean, I wouldn't go over to Slayer's page and add death metal because they have a little bit of death metal in their music! Thanks for reading. Thundermaster (talk · contribs) 17:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

To Zouavman: I didn't add the genre to the page. Chill, man! I didn't add it because I didn't have a source. But if you've ever listened to MFKR, then you would obviously know without a shadow of a doubt that they had a ton of experimental moments. Dark Executioner (talk) 18:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I did not accuse you of adding the genre, I was just telling you that I disagree with you. I have in fact listened to Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat, and I don't see how it is experimental. Original, yes, but not experimental. I thank you for not having added the genre and I apologize for sounding like I was accusing you, which was not my intention. Regards, Zouavman Le Zouave 13:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

MFKR is progressive, funk/rap metal. Maybe it is experimental in comparison to their later works, but not generally. For exapmle L.A.P.D. (band) played almost the same music several years before MFKR. A ton of experimental moments would not make the band an avant-garde metal band--Lykantrop ^(Talk) 00:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Could 'funk metal (early)' be added to the genres with allmusicguide's article on MFKR as a citation then? Munci (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I do not think that Slipknot sound, even on Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat, is in any way similar to the funk metal played by bands like Mr. Bungle, Faith No More, or Rage Against the Machine. Allmusicguide often does terrible classification with musical genres, and I don't think it should be used as a source for genres for bands. Zouavman Le Zouave 18:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

What would you consider MFKR's genre to be then? Munci (talk) 18:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Nu metal, it's as simple as that. Zouavman Le Zouave 21:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

There are certainly some bits which are not rock at all like Confessions and parts of Do Nothing/Bitchslap so it's definitely not as simple as that. Munci (talk) 19:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, as a title of comparision, Deathspell Omega's Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice contains several Gregorian chants in the album (sometimes with no other instruments playing). The album still remains a black metal release because that is the overall genre of the album. Whether a couple of tracks depart slightly from the overall genre is irrelevant. Zouavman Le Zouave 11:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

侬咋莫鞭 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.241.22.102 (talk) 07:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Slipknot (disambiguation) and Slipknot redirect

The article Slipknot (band) has more than 8000 views a day. Slip knot has less than 250 views a day. SlipKnot (web browser) has about 100 views a day. Every redirect should go to the most notable article. Only if the other articles are also important, the redirect should go to the disambiguation page. But Slipknot (band) is obviously and incomparably the most notable of the articles on the disambiguation page. And the redirect Slipknot should not be used as a disambiguation page. For this is the Slipknot (disambiguation)--Lykantrop ^(Talk) 00:09, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Lykantrop said it all. :-) Zouavman Le Zouave 18:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The number of views of a wikipedia page is not an indication of its notability. Most of the general population have not heard of the band whereas most people will have heard of the knot. The wikipedia page views just reflect the interests of wikipedia readers, i.e there is more interest in reading about the band than about the knot. --Brian R Hunter (talk) 10:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Where's your proof that more people know about the knot than the band? I find it difficult to believe. Blackngold29 16:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

look up slipknot in a dictionary or in Britannica and you find information about a knot that has been in common use since 1660. It can seem strange when you are immersed in a particular music genre to discover that your favourite beat combo is unknown by a large proportion of the general population. Not quite the same but in the sixties there were judges who had not heard of the Beatles, even now I am guessing that the word beetles is more widely known. It's probably an age thing. --Brian R Hunter (talk) 02:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I only question it because when I first came here to look up the band, I was re-directed to the actual knot, which I had no clue existed. If people are looking for the knot, it seems pretty simple to find the article (hence the note at the top of the page). I think the vast difference of 7750 views per day is pretty good evidence what people are looking for, I don't think that over 7000 people are daily misguided in their search for a knot. On top of that, Slip knot is two words, so why would someone type it in as one? Similar to "Beatles" and "beetles", different things, different spelling. The knot has obviously been used longer, but that doesn't mean it's more popular. Blackngold29 03:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I concur --Brian R Hunter (talk) 23:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

At first, Slipknot and slip knot are two different terms. You can't ambiguate Slipknot because of slip knot. It would be possible only if the knot was called slipknot, or the band was called Slip Knot. An example for how it is correctly is Nailbomb. I recommend to read Wikipedia:Disambiguation. --  LYKANTROP  ✉ 11:43, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

not alternative metal

Listen to real alt-metal (Faith no More, the melveins....) Slipknot isn´t an alt-rock-influenced band —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nu89 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

What any single person thinks does not make a difference. Unless it can be cited to a credible source that Slipknot is not alternative metal it should remain. Blackngold29 17:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Slipknot shouldn't even be considered metal at all. That term shouldn't be used in unison with this band.

Chech it out: http://www.metal-archives.com/index.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.210.72 (talk) 11:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Associated acts

Can you add with the associated acts that #REDIRECT Joey Jordinson is playing for KoRn now? I didn't see that in there but it does say that he is playing for Korn while their drummer is on hiatus.36 AM May 19, 2007.

Can you show proof of that? Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 15:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Jordison did play with Korn, but I don't know if we should add that to the associated acts list, as it was only a temperary fill in for an already established band. Not a "side project" like the rest of them are. Blackngold29 16:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we should put it on here, maybe on joey's page, but not on the slipknot page since the whole band didn't play with KoRn, just joey. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 16:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

You're all wrong. Joey played with Korn in 2007 only. He hasn't played with them in over 8 months. I think the current Korn drummer is Ray Luzier or someone like that. 68.215.135.164 (talk) 19:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Look I know everybody see it their way BUT PEOPLE?! what I've read right now made me laugh and cry in the same time... I MEAN - "The band's musical influences include groove metal, extreme metal, industrial metal, and HIP HOP." what the hell?! rap, hip hop?! I mean I really don't know if someone was joking or what, but people change that please for the sake of the super cabbage... I even don't like Slipknot, I dislike their satanistic attitude(to tell you the truth it makes me sick) but I think its ridiculous to say that good musicians like Slipknot are(at least their music is good) are rap or hip hop, wtf?!?!? if this is not consequence of vantalism or joking, then I am trully shocked... --VEGETA_DTX (talk) 20:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

First of all no Slipknot members are satanic, I've actually heard them specifically say "Nobody is into that shit." Second, the groove metal and hip hop are sounds that Slipknot actually used themselves on Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat. it is not vandalism. Blackngold29 20:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus some of the lyrical patterns verge on rapping, for example their earlier stuff such as Spit It Out. It also states they are musical influences, I know Corey was influenced by Elvis but that doesn't mean he has to sing like him, so just by saying they were influenced by Hip Hop doesn't mean they need to sound like it. REZTER ^TALK ø 21:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

First of all, sorry for posting this into inappropriate section, and thanx on explanation THOUGH I still disagree about leaving the "Hip Hop" and "Rap" into genres because it ridiculously doesn't have anything to do with it(at least the way I know hip hop and rap) but oh well everybody see it from they're point of view... Second If its true what you've said that they said something like "Nobody is into that shit." than I guess I officially became Slipknot fan today :D because that was the only thing I disliked about Slipknot...thanx! :D--VEGETA_DTX (talk) 16:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, welcome to the club then. Although I think the influences should remain they should all be sourced. Anyone know a reliable site that lists influences? Blackngold29 16:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

rivalry with mushroomhead

i think a "rivalry with mushroomhead" section should be added. since a "rivalry with slipknot" section is on the mushroomhead page... just add the same information and resource —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.210.67.136 (talk) 16:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm gonna have to oppose this suggestion on the grounds that this article is of GA status already, the section in the Mushroomhead article contains very few sources, and it isn't really a notable "event". I believe at one time this article did contain such a section, but it was removed prior to the GA proposal, so I see no reason to re-include it. Blackngold29 20:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I second that it shouldn't be included. First off there is a small statement in the "Image and identities" section, also it isn't that important to Slipknot, their fans or the media attention they receive. I'm sorry but it seems that Mushroomhead are the only ones who have the grudge and they are in some ways playing on it to create a rift between the bands. Plus it's not even that big of a deal. REZTER ^TALK ø 20:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Other genres

Why is New Wave of American Heavy Metal not mentioned, check its page.

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It is well-cited to multiple sources, I support adding it. However, I would only put it in the infobox for now. Blackngold29 23:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I am also in favour of adding this genre. It seems to be the most accurate genre to describe Slipknot's later works, plus it is well-cited. James25402 (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi guys. NWOAHM is not a musical genre. It is a movement. It has nothing to do with infobox of bands. But I am glad you are interested in inclusion of NWOAHM in Slipknot article. I wrote NWOAHM article and I had a problem to enforce it because of one user. So feel free to keep that thing in the article... But not infobox please - as I said - it is not a genre.--  LYKANTROP  20:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I see, thanks for the clarification! Blackngold29 21:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not looking to start a pointless argument or anything, but NWOBHM was also a movement and plenty of bands have it added in their infobox...

I know the NWOAHM is not as well-defined yet though, maybe it could be added to the infobox when the movement is a little more well-known? James25402 (talk) 09:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

The "NWOAHM is not as well-defined yet" is one true thing and the other thing is that it is wrong if some band has NWOBHM as a genre in the infobox. I think that it should be satisfactory as it is. The reason can be seen for example here: I added it originally to the subgenres of heavy metal (see here). I did not realize the error because the NWOBHM was also already here. And one user did realize the error and moved both NWOBHM and NWOAHM to the "regional scenes" (see here). You have for example Bay Area thrash, and it is also not in the infoboxes. NWOAHM is not a genre. The NWOAHM bands do not play the same genre. You have lots of metalcore bands,melodic death, altern, thrash, prog and so on.. As in NWOBHM is power metal, speed, classic heavy etc. So NWOBHM has also nothing to do in infoboxes.  LYKANTROP  11:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought NWOAHM meant Metalcore... which Slipknot is certainly NOT!!!!! They do not even remotely sound like bands like Trivium or (horrible band) Avenged Sevenfold. Slipknot has more talent in their masks than metalcore has in its whole body! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.215.135.164 (talk) 19:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I have a source for heavy metal, but seeing as it's allmusic, it may be unreliable. [1] --↑ɻ⅞θʉɭђɥл₮₴Ṝ 19:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm actually surprised it's not in there already. Blackngold29 19:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I really think Heavy metal should be added. In fact, I think Heavy metal should the only genre in the genre box, with a "see below" link and have a debated genre section that lists different genres from different sources, much like what the Cradle of Filth article has. I mean, while Slipknot are typically classified as Nu metal by Metalheads, there's no denying it's highly debated of what genres (Most bands can't be pigeon-holded under one genre, after all) they would belong to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.227.133.187 (talk) 08:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Well they aren't even metal so I don't know why you would suggest that. http://www.metal-archives.com/index.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.210.72 (talk) 11:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Good Article?

Well, it is a good article, but it includes some unsourced claims. Those were probably added after the GA-review, but now the article would not pass the Wikipedia:Good article criteria anymore. So I just recommend to source them or delete them, otherwise Slipknot will be deleted from the GA-list. Cheers--  LYKANTROP  20:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Man, the article is pretty good material! Why don't you fix the small errors and go to Wikipedia:Featured article criteria, Wikipedia:Peer review and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates?--  LYKANTROP  21:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Extreme Metal

I think Slipknot is a combination of Alternative Metal, Nu Metal, Rapcore, Thrash Metal and Extreme Metal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.88.114 (talk) 19:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Unless you can provide a legit source to back up your claims it should remain as is. Thanks! Blackngold29 19:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

The self titled album

Okay, does Jim Root play on the album at all? I thought the other guitars were Brainard! If this si the case, why is Brainard not credited? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.215.135.164 (talk) 20:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

See the Slipknot (album) article, I believe that everything is explained there. Thanks! Blackngold29 22:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

A Missing Album?

Are you curious about this too? I think I've found a Slipknot album that Wikipedia hasn't created an article for. It looks like all of the songs are very rare b-sides. Follow this link to check it out: [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.215.135.195 (talk) 14:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

That "album" is not an official band release, and contains no music from the band. I believe it is a spoken biography. Blackngold29 15:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

WHAT?!?! Man, I got all excited that it was a rare b-side album! 68.215.135.195 (talk) 16:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually there is a album missing from Wikipedia it was an unreleased album recorded one year after Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat. It was called Crowz but the only person who really has a copy of it is Shawn Crahan and it's locked up in his basement there have been few songs leaked though through various places.4.248.228.47 (talk) 03:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Crowz was never an album, just a collection of songs that the band recorded but never released. There were never intended for release. Blackngold29 04:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Sid Wilson (1998-present)

I changed the dates for Sid Wilson because they aren't consistent with the article, which states "In early 1998, the band created another small demo, which included "Spit It Out". The demo was sent to many record labels and, along with a growing popularity on the Internet and help from their then manager Sophia John, interest grew from record labels and eventually producer Ross Robinson was contacted. The band, which had a strong interest in working with Robinson, met with him and it was then decided they would work together. Soon after, DJ Sid Wilson was brought in to the band after showing great interest and impressing band members. Mattpaige (talk) 17:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

buh?

In the fourth paragraph of the "Early years" section, I find the following sentence: "Slipknot had returned to the studio having developed new material, which was, demanded more vocal melody." Um... what? Maybe I'm not reading it right, but the sentence structure doesn't seem quite right to me, especially since I can't even figure out what the sentence is trying to say (which is why I'm not taking the initiative to correct it). Can anyone lend some insight? - 68.146.190.58 (talk) 06:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I think if you take out "was" it's OK. "Slipknot had returned to the studio having developed new material which demanded more vocal melody." I think it basically means, more singing, less screaming. That's my take anyway, good find. Blackngold29 06:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

What's this about slipknot being metalcore? Metalcore is bands like Trivium. 68.155.134.6 (talk) 17:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Find a reliable source that says Slipknot is not metalcore. Until you can, it shall remain. Blackngold29 18:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you, I wouldn't call Slipknot metalcore. But it doesn't matter what we think unfortunately there's a source saying they are, so it must remain. Jakisbak (talk) 19:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Pictures

Somebody might want 2 put up there new 1's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.71.40 (talk) 05:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

The only images you can upload to Wikipedia are FREE images, that means they are not copyrighted (which every image is until declared otherwise). So unless you have the permission from the copyright holder to use them on here and they understand what that means then you can upload, unless it falls under the free use policy. REZTER ^TALK ø 09:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Well at least u no, try 2 put the most recent 1 plus 1 that shows all of em. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.71.40 (talk) 03:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

members and discog

First, the members section is more linear and aesthetically looks better when organized via code number.

Second, the discography section looks better with the dates before the title. This is how discographies are organized in featured articles, i'm going to change it around now.

Anyone with a good reason why it should be changed back, give me one.

Mattpaige (talk) 02:51, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Injury List

Here are the numerous injuries and wounds that Slipknot have encountered whileperforming live. Note, that not ALL injuries have been listed but more of the major ones.

#0 Sid 1. Third-degree burns on leg from lighting self on fire. 2. Two broken ribs from diving into guard rail. 3. Cuts and bruises from encounters with Shawn on stage. 4. Jumped off a two story ledge in to a crowd and sprained ankle.

#1 Joey 1. Severely lacerated shin from pulling his drum set on top of him. 2. Broken and scarred knuckles (Mainly from punching things) 3. Concussion and stitches from flying steel pipe (Thrown by Shawn)

#2 Paul 1. Cuts and bruises from various accidents. 2. A fan tossed a bottle at him when they were playing on stage, it hit the back of his head and gave him some bruises.

#3 Chris 1. Shinsplints 2. Bruises and cuts 3. Chonicly sore neck from headbanging.

#4 James 1. Cuts and bruises from various accidents.

#5 Craig 1. Broken big toe. (Squished under Shawns Keg) 2. Whiplash from headbanging.

#6 Shawn 1. An assortment of abrasions, bruises and broken bones from physical contact with bandmates. 2. Several slipped vertebrae. 3. Broken ribs 4. Broken Knuckles from punching the shit out of himself, keg, fans, bandmates, and pretty much anything in sight. 5. Ozzfest 99' 2 gash's in forehead requiring 39 total stitches from slaming head into keg. 6. Lacerations in head. 7. Dislocated Shoulder from Hurling self into drum kit. 8. Split colar bone. 9. Concussion from slamming head into keg. 10. Wide array of general tissue degeneration. 11. Bruised pelvis from failed backflip attempts. 12. Tackled and maced by security (he was riding in a golf cart near the tour buses and security didnt know who he was and Shawn fought back)

#7 Mick 1. Severe back problems from his head banging guitar style. 2. One of clowns pipes and it took out a chunk of the fretboard and mick sliced his hand open whilen playing

#8 Corey 1. Blue, hairless, patch on leg from being lit on fire. 2. Various cuts and bruises. 3. Suffered a servere scalp infection from making his first mask. he pulled out his own hair, made it into dreds and put them onto the mask 4. Fell over on stage and sprained his ankle (Greece 2005)

Information Courtesy of http://slipknot-metal.com/ [3]

That information should not be added to the article as it fails WP:Trivia and Slipknot-metal.com is not a reliable source (see WP:RS).REZTER ^TALK ø 22:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Slipknot News

Scare Kids Scaring Kids(Post-Hardcore) sounds more cosely related to Metal than slipknot(Supposly Metal): compare "My Darkest Hour" With "Wait and Bleed"

To The ones the creates new genres like "Extreme/Fast/Agressive Metal" or Bullshit like that STUDY MUSIC AND THEN GIVE YOUR OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Metal.Darkness666@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.53.56.158 (talk) 06:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

You're judging Slipknot's genre off of one song? Blackngold29 06:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Their first single of all? Have you heard All Hope Is Gone, Psychosocial, Before I Forget… [[User:Jasca

Ducato|Jasca Ducato]] (talk) 20:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Metalcore

I think metalcore should be added to the genre list since the single All Hope Is Gone is metalcore. What do ya'll think?Hellop115 (talk) 00:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Got reliable sources? Zouavman Le Zouave 02:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Just the All Hope Is Gone Wikipedia page. is that even a source?Hellop115 (talk) 00:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Murder in Krugersdorp, South Africa

84.23.102.201 (talk) 02:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)Do you people know about the boy who allegedly killed another boy with a sword at a secondary school in South Africa? The alleged killer was wearing a Slipknot-lookalike mask. I don't know anything about editing Wikipedia but I believe this would possibly interest you people. It is currently in the newspapers in South Africa. Here is a link (if it works):[4]. I hope this shows up in the discussion page.

Well, it is sourced but I don't see any clear connection between the band and the act. I'm sure people wear shirts depicting things they don't really have a connection to everyday, though the masks show some kind of relationship with the band. I think we should wait and see if there is further talk of the incident and some kind of proof that the band and the act are connected. Blackngold29 02:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree, although at the moment there are some hysterical reaction to the news in the south African press, we should wait and see if this kid was really influenced by Slipknot. I think it is currently just some wild speculation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.2.124.253 (talk) 09:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Controvesy

Slipknot has recently being blamed as a motivating factor behind Morne Harmse's sword attack at his school. Harmse took a Ninja sword to his school in Krugersdorp, South Africa and killed and unnamed 16 year old boy and injured two school workers. He had painted his face black and wore a black balaclava and resembled Slipknot's drummer. South African police refuse to comment on any possible link between alleged Satanism, Slipknot and the killing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuartmferguson (talk • contribs) 12:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Pulled out of Reading Festival

http://www.nme.com/news/slipknot/39090

Joey Jordison broke his ankle, so they can't play there.

The Wiki says otherwise, fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.124.155 (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I believe there were other tour dates that have also been cancelled. There are loads of news articles already although the best citation would be on the official slipknot site when they make an announcement on there (looking past the obvious issue of the site being flash-based). Matttrash (talk) 17:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Archive

The page maybe? It's getting long. I've got no idea how. Maybe one of you guys can ? Jakisbak (talk) 23:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

SlipKnoT EP

Is there a SlipKnoT EP? Cause on iTunes, it shows a EP called, SlipKnoT, having six songs, and released in, 1988 or 1989, they scream in the EP. Could this be an official EP before the starting of the band and could the EP be different band with same title?? we'll find out sometime, and on iTunes, its called "SlipKnoT - EP" (Of course). [[  Demon Hunter Rules ]] (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

How many times has this been asked? Please check the archives of this talk page for your answer it has been answered multiple times. REZTER ^TALK ø 21:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes it has been asked, on see Talk:Slipknot (band)/Archive 4#slipknot ep. The track listing is below

• Tracks:

1. "Let it Show"
2. "Help You Think"
3. "Condemned"
4. "World Leader"
5. "Hate in Blue"
6. "No. 9"

So yeah I found that its no the same band, its a different band, with the same name though. [[  Demon Hunter Rules ]] (talk) 00:36, 30 August 2008 (UTC)