Talk:Smells Like Children

Original Version Deletion

Why was the "Original Version" section under the Track Listing deleted? That's the only source on the internet showing that, plus it seemed informational, and factual, enough to be of use on the page. I'm not going to reset it untill someone else agrees, because maybe I'm the only one who would keep that section.--AxlRocks (talk) 21:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to me to include it if it's verifiable.--- It doesn't stick. (talk) 16:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Cover

Different articles have inconsistencies about the character Manson is supposed to be on the cover, some say Willy Wonka while the article for the Child Catcher form the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang movie says that he is the character influence. Can somebody with more Manson knowledge than me clear this up please. Soltake (talk) 23:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Procardia

"Procardia" is a fake, fan made track that is usually tacked to the end of bootlegs of the original uncensored EP and should not be included in the official track listing of such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by McGooty (talk • contribs) 03:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Length

Isn't this album far too long to be an ep?

There really doesn't seem to be a consensus on Wikipedia of what constitutes an "E.P." This has frustrated more than a few editors. --- It doesn't stick. (talk) 16:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

What I'd like to know is who declared this one an EP? If it was the artist or the record company, then I guess we should call it that, but we should still note that it's long enough to be called an LP. As I understand it, there is much more confusion between calling something a single or EP. According to the Wikipedia page for Extended-Play records, a CD LP usually goes "up to 36 minutes." An LP record album can hold up to about 30 minutes on each of its two sides (totaling 60 minutes). The 7 inch EP record could generally hold 7.5 minutes on each side (total of 15 minutes). This album is over 50 minutes and approaches the maximum capacity for the normal LP record. -User:Hbomberman April 23, 2010 12:22 AM Eastern Time —Preceding undated comment added 04:22, 23 April 2010 (UTC).

I think the article should be switched over into being an album than an EP. This release is definitely way too long to be an EP. • GunMetal Angel 10:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

• 54 minutes is longer than an LP, it's in no way an EP.Hoponpop69 (talk) 12:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

So does anyone object to moving this?Hoponpop69 (talk) 12:27, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hoponpop69: its classified as an EP. can you find a source that calls it an album? --FMSky (talk) 01:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Hoponpop69: This is a nearly 15 year-old discussion. This does not provide consensus for any of the changes you're trying to make in multiple articles. Far more recent discussions - which you were a participant in - have taken place on numerous other pages, and have provided no consensus. You need to stop this, for reasons explained previously elsewhere. This is blatant disruption at this point. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 01:40, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay, keep living in your false reality. I don't give a care anymore and am washing my hands of this.Hoponpop69 (talk) 13:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Scabs, Guns, and Peanut Butter

Turns out when the song is slowed down it is actually Twiggy Ramirez singing that song. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by FinalDeathwish (talk • contribs) 08:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Just a thought

I remember Manson mentioning that this album was a complete disaster that didn't turn out the way they intended and that got me to thinking, heres a theory. The first album seems to be about challenging typical all american 50's ideas. Its even called 'Portrait of an American Family'. If this were the beginning of a timeline then the next album 'Smells like Children' would be the decade the 60's, a time in which the hippie movement attempted to bring about a carefree child like quality to life in america only to have it twisted into a drug induced nightmare. The 60's really didn't turn out the way we intended. I have trouble connecting Antichrist Svperstar with the 70's except for the cocain refirences and the Ziggy Stardust connection. Mechanical Animals however I find easily represents the 80's with the look and the sound being similar to new wave, and videogame sounds through out the album. Holywood I also find seems to connect to the grity dirtiness of the 90's grunge scene. Which could possibly place The Golden Age of Grotesque in the present which makes sense since the first thing he says on the album is "Theres nothing left to say anymore, everythying has been said before" refuring to all the remakes and lack of originality these days. I suppose if this timeline theory is correct Eat Me Drink Me is about our future... Now, all you who are dying to disagree for the sake of disagreement start typin like theres no tomorrow! I admit this is far fetched and could be the product of an overactive imagination. However it is something to ponder on.

76.4.36.11 00:36, 15 March 2007 (UTC)Deadlyrazorwings

Manson made all of his albums so that they could be conceived and interpreted differently. What one person sees as a Hateful song filled of violence, you might see as a reflection of society which is gentler than the real world.Mutlee (talk) 05:34, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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Contradiction

The descriptions for 'Abuse Part 1' and 'Abuse Part 2' in the intro are notably different from the descriptions in the track listing section. Which are right? Zazaban (talk) 19:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The part in the intro is about right, it's account of events is taken from the Marilyn Manson biography: The Long Hard Road...  Doktor  Wilhelm  00:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Dancing With the One Legged...

Where the hell did you people get that information? It's seems like bullshit. Can I have some backing on it. -- KMFDM Fan (talk) 17:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC) Big text

Sources

• Smells Like Children-era interviews

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