Talk:Socotra/Archive 1

Archive 1

Malachoria

I'm not sure if this unsourced stub is factual or a hoax, but it refers to this same island under a different name (or perhaps a nationalist movement there). Can somebody verify it, and if necessary, either improve that article (with sources, preferably), or if it is simply another name, merge it into this article and make the page a redirect? Rigadoun (talk) 21:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Taken care of. I used to live in Yemen, and went to Socotra several times. There is no such thing as "Malachoria." The people (socotris) refer to their island as Socotra, and nothing but. There is no nationalist movement, either. gvilweevil 12:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I have {{prod}}ed the Malachoria article, as it may be a hoax. Rigadoun (talk) 16:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Island of Africa?

I noticed that Socotra is in the category 'Islands of Africa', despite being part of Yemen, which is an Asian country.--HisSpaceResearch 04:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Socotra is clearly closer to Somalia than the Yemen mainland and is geographically African, but geopolitically Asian. See the transcontinental country article. Heff01 21:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion

I think this article was very helpful and I would oppose its deletion. Maybe a revision is in order, but I think that deletion is unnecessary. I am a person who browses wikipedia quite often and I found this bit of information very interesting. Especially because I plan on living in a low-key place such as Socotra in my later years. Thank you for considering my opinion.

-Brett, Virginia, USA

More Soqotra information on Russian Wikipedia

There are more information about Soqotra at ru.wikipedia in Russian, especially connecting with the history of Soqotra and Soqotra's references such as MP3 Soqotri speach recording address and etc.

Austria?

Hi in the history section it mentions that socotra was breifly ruled by austria.i have been able to find no evidence to support this.Please could someone explain.

King Tom-U.K

Good question. The Austrian Empire having been transcontinental depends upon this. Maybe there is a German or Arabic-language website documenting this. Heff01 21:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

locator map

The article needs a locator map. OverMyHead 16:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Austria

Really, in 1860-70s when Austrian Empire hes a fleet there was an idea to take Soqotra to be an Austrian territory and this forced the British Empire to sign a treaty with the Qish and Soqotra Sultan in 1876 (the island bacame a British Protectorate in 1886). See Farouk Osman Abatha's book "Aden..." (in Arabic) and Walter Dostal's works. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.141.189.224 (talk) 17:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

Website link with some nice pictures of the landscape

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/09/most-alien-looking-place-on-earth.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.169.75.187 (talk) 23:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Population

Contradictory statements: Info box on right says: Largest city Hadiboh (pop 43,000)); Socatra 80,000. "People and Economy" says: Almost all inhabitants of Socotra live on the main island (estimated population 43,000 in 2004). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiddy (talk • contribs) 04:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I've changed the reference to Soqotri as "an unwritten dialect of Arabic" to read "a Semitic language", as the separate article of Soqotri makes it clear that it's not a dialect of Arabic.Manormadman (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Confusing Statement

"The archipelago was once part of the supercontinent of Gondwana and detached during the Middle Pliocene (ca 6 million years ago)". This makes it sound like Socotra was part of Gondwana only 6 millions years ago. That can't be right; the world was basically in it's current configuration 6 millions years ago, and Gondwana was, by then, ancient history. Probably needs rephrasing but I'm not sure what the writer really intended to say.

And another one:

"The climate is generally tropical desert, with rainfall being light, seasonal (winter) and more abundant at the higher ground in the interior than along the coastal lowlands. The monsoon season brings strong winds and high seas."

Anyone who can make sense of that sentence? please give it rewrite. Sertmann (talk) 08:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Dragon tree

The dragon tree showed here is Dracaena draco from Canary Islands (in Socotra occurs Dracaena cinnabari). --Xvazquez (talk) 16:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

See the Commons page. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 20:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Photos

Many of the photos look like someone wanted to show off their holiday photos. They dont give any extra information to the reader. I think most of them should be deleted.--82.130.17.168 (talk) 03:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Alien?

Needs more photos of alien landscape. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.165.103 (talk) 01:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Build-up of US army on Socotra?

On my link, there is a report about a build-up of US troops on the Socotra island. If this is true, then there should be something about it implemented into the article.

http://yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=4793&MainCat=3

http://presstv.com/detail/228662.html

http://www.pacificrimcoins.com/pacrim/content/debka-massive-us-military-buildup-two-strategic-islands-socotra-and-masirah

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/02/24/US-troops-arrive-on-Yemeni-island/UPI-63791330119944/

http://www.yemenfox.net/news_details.php?sid=2187

http://bikyamasr.com/?s=socotra&x=0&y=0 --Da Dashz (talk) 17:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't be so silly mate, this is Wikipedia, you will be branded a "conspiracy theorist" for even mentioning it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.13.206 (talk) 02:04, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh really?And why is that?There are sources. --Da Dashz (talk) 17:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Your first link says that the Yemeni government denies the presence of U.S. troops and blames Israel for the story. The article refers to this article in The Economist, which says "DEBKAfile, an excitable but at times well-informed Israeli security website, reported that 'many thousands' of American troops have arrived" on Socotra and Masirah. So it's just a dubious rumour so far, but may be worth mentioning as such. —innotata 18:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, you have a point, but of course Yemen will deny American presence on the island of Socotra, or even Masirah.Also, Israel does have secret ties with America as they are allies. I mean, come on, why is Gingrich and Obama talking about Israel all the time? They want to protect the country. Besides, the US has quite a bit of military presence in the Arabian peninsula.The Fifth Fleet is stationed in the Persian gulf and nearby even. I will look into this more, but I just want to state the truth. Nothing against the US, just keeping a close eye.--Da Dashz (talk) 15:32, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Religion?

Is it still predominantly Christian? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 07:11, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

It's mostly Muslim, as it has been since the 15th century or so. Here's a source, no good ones showed up in the first page of Google results. —innotata 21:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Article in other languages - to be merged

Hi. There appears to be two separate versions of this article that exist independently of each other. This (English) version of the article is linked to the article in a few other languages, including Français. Another version of this article (wikidata: Q82859), however, is available in around 60 languages but is marked as a different article and hence cannot be linked to this English version without first merging the wikidata of both. Here's a link to the Simple English language version of the article: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socotra. AAldousari (talk) 20:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Confusing conflicts

I found a number of apparent conflicts with other articles and the OED, relating to language, religion, and even the species of the drangonsblood trees. This last point may be related to the comment above about the trees.

It's possible some of these points merely need updating. For example, it may have once been Christian but is now Muslim, or Soqotri may be related to modern Arabian languages but also to the most ancient languages of the Near East. Whatever the case, the article needs to spell this out.

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 11:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Who cares if it conflicts with the OED. Lots of entries in it are inaccurate, but who cares? Find more specialised refs to be certain. Get a book about languages for Soqotri, a book on botany (and maybe somebody from WP:PLANTS) for the plants, and so on. As for Soqotri, yes, it is "related to modern Arabian languages but also to the most ancient languages of the Near East," if you want to put it that way. innotata (Talk | Contribs) 16:02, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

The religion question is a good one. There is some discussion here of Christianity coming to the islands, but nothing about the arrival of Islam. I am not arguing for deletion of the former, but would like to see the latter added if someone has the info on it. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 15:18, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Separaism

Is there Separaism or language movement?--Kaiyr (talk) 14:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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Socotra Island

Socotra Island the present and future and your new tourist world's.

Back ground. Socotra the virgin and charming Islands'. Its mountains wait for their explorers and discoverers. These mountains are covered with dragon-blood trees and other unusual plants. In Socotra you can see the breathtaking views of canyons and turquoise mountain lakes. Dessert plains, huge plateaus, deep gorges, mysterious caves, picturesque villages and ruins – all this is a picture of unique Socotra environment, a wonderful picture as if painted in the pre-historic period. Those who like relaxing on the beach can find there clean and virgin sand sea-shores. Naturalists will enjoy rocky shores with numerous species of unique wild life. Divers will have chances to plunge into the bright and colorful underwater world of Socotra. People from all over the world come to Socotra to enjoy them vacations on the beauty of the island and the unique variety of its flora and fauna.

Geography and Geology Socotra Island is one of the most isolated pieces of lands on earth. The Island probably detached from Africa as a fault block during the Middle Pliocene (about 6 million years ago) in the same set of rifting events that opened the Gulf of Aden to the North West. The Island lies in the north –western corner of the Western Indian Ocean, at the junction between the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea at 12- 30’N – 53-50’E. Socotra Island is composed of a basement complex of igneous and metamorphic rocks of Pre-Cambrian age overlain by sedimentary rocks, mainly limestone and sandstone. Topographically it can be divided into three main zones. The coastal plains vary considerably in width, up to about 5 km. The limestone plateau extends across most of the Island, averaging 300-700 m in altitude. This plateau drops in steep, often almost vertical, escarpments to the coastal plain or directly to the sea. It is dissected by a number of deep valleys, as well as drops away at the edges in steep cliffs and is eroded on the surface into karsts topography. The Haghier Mountains is the backbone of the Island is formed by the Haghier Mountains located in the north-west of the Island rise up to a height of 1519 m, these mountains rise dramatically along their sheer northern face and slope of more gently along the southern and eastern flanks. The top of Mashneq's is the highest point on the Island, it's about (1526 masl) and it is located in the central Haghier Massif. Although Socotra lies in the rain bearing monsoon belt, it is predominantly the Hagghier Mountains that attract the precipitation, with the result that their slopes are well vegetated and several of their steams are perennial.

Socotra caves Information and what to see in the Caves

Hoq Cave was the first cave to be surveyed by the Belgian Socotra Karst Project-team (SKP) in December 2000-January 2001, initiated by the geologist Peter De Geest. It is one of the most ancient metropolitan cave sites of the Middle East. The archaeologic remains are impressive. There are also numerous endemic troglobionts living in the cave. Hoq Cave is the type locality of several invertebrates, among them the Whip Scorpions. Hundreds of stalagmites, ranging in size from a few 10s of cm to an estimated 20 m, rise from the cave floor. Nearly all are presently inactive. Growing stalagmite and three inactive stalagmites ranging in size from 54 cm to 155 cm. Hoq Cave is a sort of semi wild show cave. Explored by the Belgian Soqotra Karst Project, it became famous among cavers, scientists, and tourists. In order to protect the cave, the Belgian cavers laid a path through 2,500m of the cave. They also trained local villagers to guide visitors. The idea was to protect the cave by offering the locals a living and teach them about the dangers. Moomi Caves - An extensive karst plateau lies to the east of the Haggier Mountains. There is several caves on this region are located about 4 km from one another at ~480 masl. Both caves contain numerous active and fossil stalagmites. Southwest Caves second high limestone plateau is located on the southwestern side of Soqotra Island. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Socotra holidays (talk • contribs) 15:44, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Not sure what this is supposed to do exactly, but it certainly paints a nice picture of the island. AVAAGAA↪ 04:18, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Socotra is a yemeni island from along time Nashero (talk) 18:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Remove the emirate flag from the information about socotra lsland it's a yemeni island Nashero (talk) 18:39, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Socotra administration

In your dreams that Emirates will get a meter in socotra.. Socotra is a South Yemeni's island N.albokhity (talk) 19:52, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2018

Please change X Please On May 3rd 2018, the United Arab Emirates deployed over 100 troops and effectively occupied the island, taking control of sea and airports as well as major population centers. X to Y because UAE have come to help Yemen https://www.npr.org/sections/.../the-irony-of-a-930-million-donation-to-help-yemen

Please change X [2] The UAE claims that they have leased the island for 99 years, a claim that the Yemeni government denies. X to Y because There is no evidence.

Please change X On January 29, 2018, the local Southern Transitional Council leadership on the archipelago declared their support for the STC during Hadi infighting in and around Aden.[22]

After the United Arab Emirates deployed troops on the island as part of the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen, some Yemeni political factions have accused the UAE of looting, claiming that Emirian forces had ravaged the flora of the Island.[23] On 3 May 2018 the UAE deployed over 100 troops on the island, taking over key installations such as Socotra Airport from Yemeni soldiers. Local media reported that the UAE had a "99-year lease" on the island which Yemen has denied. The flag of the UAE and images of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan were placed on official buildings and busy thoroughfares.[24] Yemeni officials stated “Emirati cargo flights have unloaded tanks, armored transports and heavy equipment on Socotra.”[25] The island is located near major shipping routes which the UAE has a great interest in controlling and protecting as it is the backbone of their economy. Socotra also has an airport with a 3 km airstrip which allows for heavy military jets. X to Y because https://www.albawaba.com/news/yemen-calls-uae-removal-saudi-led-coalition-amid-high-tensions-1126830 https://eng-archive.aawsat.com/n-alhaqbani/news-middle-east/hadi-calls-for-return-of-gulf-initiative-as-riyadh-conference-on-yemen-begins https://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/yemen/getting-rid-of-al-houthis-only-option-hadi-1.2151074 78.137.76.82 (talk) 18:43, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2018

Administration People's Democratic Republic of Yemen Ruled by Southern Transitional Council X to Y because Socotra is a South Yemen island 78.137.76.82 (talk) 18:55, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2018

References

It is very important to indicate that Socotra Island is officially manage by Yemeni government , however recently the UAE forces 'occupy' sea and airports on Yemen's Socotra and as a part of propaganda. Secondly, the Island is officially part of Yemen, therefore how can this magic island can be managed by forging government without any agreement with Yemeni government where the prime minister of Yemen still there to solve this issue with Saudis, so part of my responsibility as citizen from Yemen is to explain what is happening in the Socotra Island and shows the truth with all the evidences . Thirdly, the admin of wiki can also do some research to know how the UAE decide to occupy the Socotra Island.

Moab170 (talk) 16:53, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

You're gonna lose more reputation by accepting fake info. It's a South Yemeni island and administrated by Southern Transitional Council. Please remove any UAE info from this page including adminstration tab. Thanks Okayreet (talk) 17:09, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Information added are fake and paid by UAE. Very disappointed that WIKI is accepting to post this without any varification. This act further discredits WIKI. King of Archipelago (talk) 17:57, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The article clearly indicates the presence of UAE troops is an occupation. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:30, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

All I can say is SHAME SHAME on Google. How could this happen?!!! Here I thought Google was a reputable site.

Socatra is one of the Republic of Yemen biggest islands. Why do we see any reference to the UAE on this Yemeni island?!! Who is responsible for such false and damaging information?!!!! MZuberri (talk) 09:10, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

References

Socotra recognised as World Heritage Site

BirdLife News.

Socotra is Yemeni Iland always and always will be. Not UAE. Kawi.usa (talk) 13:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2018

X= Administration Yemen Yemen (de jure) United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates (de facto)

to

Y= Administration Yemen Abdulrahman Saif (talk) 07:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 13:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2018

Haiduck65 (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

For the submerged rock in the East China Sea, see Socotra Rock.

{{Infobox islands | name = Socotra | image name = Socotra satview.jpg | image caption = Landsat view over Socotra | image size = | map image = Socotra Archipelago.PNG | map caption = | native name = سُقُطْرَى
Suquṭra | native name link = Arabic language | nickname = | location = Arabian Sea | coordinates = 12°30′36″N 53°55′12″E | archipelago = Socotra | total islands = 4 | major islands = Socotra, Abd al Kuri, Samhah, Darsah | length km = 132 | width km = 50 | area km2 = 3796 | highest mount = Mashanig, Hajhir Mountains | elevation m = 1503 | country = Yemen (de jure)
Yemen (de facto)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 19:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2018

change X="Administration Yemen Yemen (de jure) United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates (de facto)"

to Y= "Administration Yemen Yemen" Kamil799 (talk) 19:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2018

Line 319, please change to "Administration: Yemen Yemen (de jure) United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates (de facto) to "Administration: Yemen (de jure et de facto)" there is no Emirates in the adminstration at all, Socatra belongs to Yemen. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/travel/tmagazine/03well.socotra.t.html Almansourahmed (talk) 01:28, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. "Reliable sources" in this case meaning something more current than a 11-year old travel article. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 01:59, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2018

Dear Sir, there is wrong and incorrect information regarding the administration and control, please note that this island in Yemen and under Yemen Government administration and supervision so please remove the information that said that it under United Arab Emirates administration, because this is totally wrong and very big mistake and lying.

please review and update this big mistake. Mohammed Ali Othman (talk) 06:06, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 06:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Adel2222ch (talk) 06:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC) Dear friend

there is a fake information about  Socotra Governorate made by other member in Wikipedia website, in two different articles

in this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socotra_Governorate and this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socotra

please note that this island in Yemen and under Yemen Government administration and supervision so please remove the information that said that it under United Arab Emirates administration, because this is totally wrong and very big mistake and lying. I sure it is not true according to Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation issues statement on UAE efforts in Yemeni Socotra your information is not right , so please change that you can find the statement here http://wam.ae/en/details/1395302687233 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adel2222ch (talk • contribs) 12:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Socotra Island is a Yemeni Island (NOT a UAE Island)

The Island Administration in the article should only have Yemen. United Arab Emirates (de facto) should be removed. The governor and every official in the Island is appointed by the President of Yemen. Why did you allow this change? Soctara Island is and has been always a Yemeni Island. It's recognized by every country in the United Nations as a Yemeni Island. Why Wikipedi is trying to change that? Why are you blocking the edits? This needs to be changed now in all Socotra pages in all languages.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Eggishorn form where did you get that information, it is wrong , and why you don't want to make this change, I don't think this the right thing

you can find the statement here http://wam.ae/en/details/1395302687233 Adel2222ch (talk) 06:18, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

I believe that would probably be considered a primary source, or something similar - not reliable at the very least - because it's basically just publishing what the government said. LittlePuppers (talk) 11:01, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

UAE Colonising the Yemeni Socotra Island

Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation emphasised that the UAE has no ambitions in sisterly Yemen or any part of it, and its steps in many Yemeni governorates come within the context of supporting Yemen's security and stability, as well as helping legitimacy and Yemeni people.

Source: The official website of the "Emirates News Agency" http://wam.ae/en/details/1395302687233 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeacherShokry (talk • contribs) 19:33, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

United State :Situation on the Yemeni Island of Socotra

Situation on the Yemeni Island of Socotra The United States is closely following the situation on the Yemeni island of Socotra and engaging with all parties to reinforce Yemen’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, as well as the need for de-escalation and dialogue. Political dialogue is necessary for the Republic of Yemen Government to rightfully ensure the safety and security of its residents on Socotra and throughout the rest of the country. The Socotra archipelago has been designated by UNESCO as a World Heritage site. The Yemeni people, along with their unique cultural and natural heritage, have already suffered immeasurably as a result of the ongoing conflict in Yemen. Yemen cannot afford further divisions. The United States calls on all parties to the conflict to focus on and embrace the UN-led political process, with the unified aim of a safe, secure, and prosperous Yemen.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/05/281993.htm'

So please change the wrong info about UAE.It is Yemeni Island — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.200.187.137 (talk) 17:53, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

This Yemeni island had the UAE salivating for years now.

UAE, we knew your ambitions in occupying this beautiful island a years back and now the whole world got to see what you're after. You can't just claim another country's land are your own just like that! We know you got money and we also know you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, but trust me when I say: "It's rude to take what it isn't rightfully yours. Heck, in recent times, none of the world's powerful nations has even thought nor dared to cross another country's border let alone try to occupy it, by force...

Yemen is a poor nation we know, but come-on. Your daddy raised you better than that!!

MZuberri (talk) 04:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

It's shameful what the UAE is doing to the Yemeni people and now to this island, Socotra, Yemen's priced jewel, an archipelago, and one of the World Heritage Islands..

No wonder, UAE, has been salivating over it. I'm surprised no other nation tried to get a piece of it other than the failed attempts by Somalia, as we read !! NovaDC (talk) 05:16, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

__________________ I would request that you kindly change the section "de facto = Yemen". Below is the argument supporting that along with official references.

The UAE has a presence on the island. However, it does not control the island. The island has a population of more than 30,000 individuals. It has a local council. It has public offices. Saying the UAE is the de facto ruler of Socotra is somewhat misleading. Why do I say that? Because the UAE has forces present in Aden, and most of the South of Yemen, as well as in Mareb in the North of Yemen. Does that make it the de facto ruler of the South of Yemen? So why is Socotra in particular classified as under UAE rule? The USA's department of state issued a statement condemning this and recognizing the sovereignty of Socotra under the rule of the Yemeni Government. Yes there are some UAE troops. It does not make them the de facto rulers of Socotra. You need to look at the overall situation in Southern Yemen. Source for US government's statement: https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/05/281993.htm

UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs statement "The statement said the UAE military presence in all liberated Yemeni governorates, including Socotra , fits within the endeavours made by the Arab Coalition to support legitimacy in this critical juncture in the history of Yemen". https://www.khaleejtimes.com/region/mena/ministry-issues-statement-on-uae-efforts-in-socotra

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yemeniking (talk • contribs) 19:41, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2018

121.46.117.19 (talk) 17:02, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Country 

    People's Democratic Republic of Yemen

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LittlePuppers (talk) 17:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

New agreement after the arrival of Saudi forces to Socotra

According to some sources, the Saudi committee, which met on the island of Socotra, Yemen, Prime Minister Ahmed Obeid bin Daghr explained at the meeting mechanisms to implement a new agreement to remove the causes of tension on the island.

The agency said that the agreement includes "the withdrawal of troops that were provided to Socotra after the arrival of the government and the return of airport forces and the port of Socotra to work and normalize life throughout the islands of the archipelago."

A second Saudi committee arrived in the island of Socotra to resolve the crisis of the presence of the UAE forces and met with the Yemeni Prime Minister located there.

The plane, which arrived at the airport, was carrying 12 people, including Saudi and Yemeni soldiers, whose mission was to mediate between the legitimate government and the United Arab Emirates over the Yemeni island of Socotra, which is controlled by UAE forces at its airport and harbor.

A Saudi committee left Socotra a few days ago after failing to persuade the UAE to withdraw its forces from the island, which united Yemenis in the face of the UAE military presence.

The Yemeni government sent a letter of complaint to the Security Council saying that this military presence was unjustified, although it maintained a calm diplomatic tone, sufficient to raise the issue of national sovereignty.

However, the Yemeni popular and partisan circles called things by their names and considered the UAE military presence an occupation of the Yemeni island, and demonstrations took place in Socotra and several Yemeni governorates denouncing this.

These developments came against the backdrop of the Abu Dhabi government sending UAE troops to Socotra Island earlier this month, in conjunction with a Yemeni government delegation led by the Prime Minister and controlling the island's port and airport. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia announced on Sunday evening the arrival of its troops to the province of Socotra archipelago, he said to train and support Yemeni forces there, according to some sources reported. Saudi Arabia announced that the presence of troops comes within the framework of joint coordination with the Yemeni government.Kingston, CA (talk) 07:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Please Remove Wrong info about UAE

Saudi troops have landed on the Yemeni island of Socotra, according to a Saudi military spokesman.

Turki al-Malki, spokesman for the Saudi-led coalition fighting Yemen's Houthi rebels, said on Sunday the Saudi soldiers are on a training and support mission with Yemeni forces.

Saudi, Emirati, and Yemeni forces will conduct joint training exercises in coordination with the Yemeni government, he added.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/saudi-military-forces-arrive-yemen-socotra-island-180513171150894.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.200.175.30 (talk) 07:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

That's a primary source, and a strongly biased one at that. LittlePuppers (talk) 23:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Socotra under the domination of the UAE

Socotra is under the control of the UAE and this is what is happening. The latest news talks about a big military reinforcementsit have been sended to the airport and the port of the capital Hadibu to impose the Emiratis control there. It can not be said that this island is under the Yemeni sovereignty. In fact, the National Army of the Hadi government is only small forces that can not impose their influence on this island in current time even the Southern Movement of the Southern Transitional Council, where half of the island was under its control, has considered this thing to be a military occupation. There are some informed sources that the Yemeni government has lodged a complaint to the United Nations Security Council requesting the withdrawal of the Armed Forces of the UAE this thing it can not be denied by anyone unless it is closely following this issue. Kingston, CA (talk) 10:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Strongly Support adding info about the occupation to the infobox, in a way similar to how infoboxes of cities in Northern Syria show who occupies them. Openlydialectic (talk) 13:47, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

UAE takeover section in History

I understand that this is a fairly recent topic and that there is a separate article which tackles United Arab Emirates takeover of Socotra, but I don't understand why it warrants its own sub section in the history section here?

Shouldn't this article focus on Socotra archipelago and history instead of current politics? Under similar sense, we can also create a Portuguese takeover, Mahra Sultanate takeover, and etc which would further sub-classify the history section. Its uncalled for, specially since the whole political issue has been resolved. Links to United Arab Emirates takeover of Socotra should still be maintained as it is still considered history, but shouldn't it be incorporated into text instead of warranting its own section which may serve to confuse the reader that it is still under UAE control? Wikiemirati (talk) 16:33, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@Openlydialectic: I would appreciate your thoughts in interest to reach a consensus. Thanks! Wikiemirati (talk) 19:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't care. My reasoning was that the event was significant, as evidenced by both the events' persistence in the news, and the spike in popularity of this very article that continues to this day (see pageview data), yet this article had just two lines about the event sidelined into the history section of the article Openlydialectic (talk) 12:31, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. It is a significant event, and therefore was added to the intro of this page when it was a current news, with those two lines then incorporated into the history section after the end of the event. Hence, in effort not to confuse the reader about the article, the sub section UAE takeover should be removed as it gives the false pretense that the island is still under UAE control. You may edit or add United Arab Emirates takeover of Socotra if you want to clarify on the political situation of the island. As far as the Yemeni government current concern, there isn't any and the administration is back under Yemeni control. The recent spike of popularity in this article was caused due to changing of administration status from "Yemen" to "UAE" in the infobox, which lead to multiple reverts and a semi-protected status. The in line text should be sufficient to document the issue which occurred, with a proper another article tackling the event in details. Wikiemirati (talk) 21:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Tristão da Cunha wrongly mentioned in 1507

"In 1507, a Portuguese fleet commanded by Tristão da Cunha", how's that possible since Tristão da Cunha was born 350 years later? Krhtikos4 (talk) 01:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

No he wasn’t DeCausa (talk) 18:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Dvipa Sukhadhara

@SharabSalam and other editors, I now see that the Dvipa Sukhadhara information has been added and reverted numerous times during the past few months; I was not aware of this when I added the information (which appeared to me to be well sourced) back in, and it was not my intention to step into an ongoing editing war. I now have read the reasons given by the various editors who have deleted such addition, but still am unclear about why the sources for the information are deemed to be unacceptable. Is the origin of Socotra's population the subject of an ongoing ethnopolitical conflict between (generally speaking) Arabs and Indians, with the sources used to support the edit akin to political advocacy rather than historical information? (I'm afraid that I have read a lot more about Socotra's geography than its history or population, so this is an honest question on my part.) If that is the case, then I can understand the insistence that such information not be presented as if it were factual and unambiguous, but wouldn't it be better to include both the Mainland India and Arabian Peninsula theories of the origin of the Island's population? Unless the sources provided by the editor who initially added the Dvipa Sukhadhara information express a WP:FRINGE POV (of which the classic example is "Flat-Earth Theory"), I think that providing both theories would be the most NPOV option. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 13:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@AuH2ORepublican: I mean if you have reliable sources you can add them here(in the talk page) while you are talking. And if you are interested most of soqotrian people are genetically related to South Arabian people(Qahtanite) J1 whether in Eriteria or in south Arabia and some has unique lineages (R0a1a1 subclade) that has not been detected in any other people and also some has african lineages. Also they speak a "semitic" language that some find the most related to the mother language of semitic languages plus there is almost no relationship between indian languages and Socatri language. However, I will take notes on your "theory" and do a research about it although I find it unlikely to be true. Also many people dont understand what the term Sukhadhara and it should not be in the head of the section. plus the edit is a copy-paste from Quora. --SharabSalam (talk) 18:08, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@SharabSalam, I am not the person who found the sources and made the edit, so I don't have any "other sources" to add. I do think, however, that, at the very least, (i) "A History of Christianity in Asia" by Samuel Hugh Moffett, (ii) "Socotra: The Mysterious Island of the Assyrian Church of the East" by Stephen Andrew Missick, (iii) "A History of Christianity in India: The Beginnings to AD 1707" by Stephen Neill, and (iv) the report by Dr. Ingo Strauch (Research assistant for Indology, Freie Universität Berlin) on his findings at Hoq Cave are reliable sources. As I wrote before, wouldn't it be better if this theory (which, again, is not mine) was presented alongside the theory involving Arab ancestry of Socotrans? Of course, as I also wrote before, if the Indian-ancestry theory is a WP: FRINGE theory then, of course, it should not be included. It just seems to me that those sources aren't fringy, so the theory wouldn't be, either--unless the sources have been badly misinterpreted by the poster, of course. This really is a subject about which I know very little, but I always err on the side of providing more historical information rather than less. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 20:19, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

The article mentions that most of the inscription found in the Island are in Brahmi. How true is that? And also the current source for sukhadhara etymology is from Sanjeev Sanyal’s popular history book. ChandlerMinh (talk) 08:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

But HOW and WHY did Yemen take over Socotra in 1967?

In the History section of the article, the timeline goes from 1876 directly to 1967. And there is absolutely no mention or talk of how Yemen got involved in the island of Socotra. It says only:

"In October 1967, in the wake of the departure of the British from Aden and southern Arabia, the Mahra Sultanate as well as the other states of the former Aden Protectorate were abolished. On 30 November of the same year, Socotra became part of South Yemen."

Nothing else. Something is very obviously being left out. What legal premise did Yemen use to take control of the island, and why? There MUST be more to this story. Bzzzing (talk) 18:01, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

The Island was controlled by the Mehri tribes of Yemen Abo Yemen✉ 07:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

It was made a part of the British Protectorate of Aden, thus it's history was intertwined with the protectorate until the independence of the protectorate in 1967 as South Yemen. Clearly nothing significant happened during this period on the island that did not also affect the Aden Protectorate as a whole, which is why there is no information written here during the interim period. - Wiz9999 (talk) 20:48, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Native Socotri language name

the socotri name of this island is Saqatri (Socotri: ساقطري) but instead the name given is the name of the island in socotri arabic (not the socotri language itself). Abo Yemen✉ 07:09, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

flag

@DeCausa why do you say that this source is not reliable? Abo Yemen✉ 19:41, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Essentially anyone can post info to it including non-experts (It even cites Wikipedia!). See WP:USERGENERATED. It has been discussed at WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard and consensus is it is not WP:RS. Last discussion is here. DeCausa (talk) 19:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I didn't know that anyone can post anything on that site. BUT, all of the flags posted there seems to be accurate and some flags like the Qu'aiti flag and the sultan's standard is the same one that is shown in the Mukalla Museum (formerly Quaiti sultan's palace). Anyways thanks for pointing that out. Abo Yemen✉ 06:40, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

"Rail transport in Socotra" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Rail transport in Socotra has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 25 § Rail transport in Socotra until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Blue Baboon Tarantula

This endemic spider is the only tarantula species living in communities (Wiki of the spider: A unique behavior of this tarantula is that it is communal, to the point that mother spiders care for the young, even attacking potential predators if they get too close to her egg sac.)

please add 2003:C1:1F0E:9200:D973:BDF1:ECE7:D7E1 (talk) 12:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)