Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (film)

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Sonic film is considered to be a genre superhero film

Who can't we add to the genre of this article computer animated superhero comedy film? Aaeliaba (talk) 22:48, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia film articles are supposed to add the primary genre. Not every possible genre is included, so while some people may include this film in the superhero genre that might not be what reliable sources are suggesting is the primary genre. -- 109.76.139.121 (talk) 18:04, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Mid-credits scene

Including the mid-scene in the plot is currently being discussed over at Sonic2 - Sonic 2 talkpage - what applies there, would logically apply here as well. I think it better to discuss and have consistency, rather than have either the scene included in one film, but not the other, especially without consensus which will only lead to future edit warring.

For the record, I think that WP:FILMPLOT needs revisiting and clarifying, as some mid-credit scenes are more relevant than others, (as my example for Avengers), but filmplot isn't conducive to this as it stands. However - WP:IGNORE can always be invoked - provided a consensus is made over it... Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

It is easy to forget but this is supposed to be an encyclopedia. The plot section is supposed to be concise and contain important plot details, needed to support the rest of the article (see WP:FILMPLOT). The mid credits sequence is nice to know but it is an extra non-essential detail, not an important plot point that an encyclopedia article needs to include. I hope editors will take a moment to carefully consider it and try to understand the guideline, we don't have to like Wikipedia guidelines to understand why they are there. If there's WP:LOCALCONSENSUS to include it anyway that would also settle the issue. -- 109.79.66.165 (talk) 19:34, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Editors have strange understanding of the word "relevance", as the appearance of Tails is of zero relevance to the plot of this film. There is not a good reason to include it in the plot section of this article because of the characters appearance in this film. That he briefly appeared at the end of this film is at best a footnote to the plot section of the second film, and does not belong in this article. -- 109.255.172.191 (talk) 14:36, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

The mid-credits scene belongs on this article specifically because it not only sets up the sequel, but literally the exact scene is in the sequel, and it shouldn't be held to a different standard just because it's placed in the middle of credits. It's relevant to the film series as a whole. Please stop removing it without discussing. Unnamed anon (talk) 20:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Billing Block

I would like to gain a consensus to add Ben Schwartz and Tika Sumpter to the starring section in the infobox. They were not only listed in the billing block, but also had single-screen billing in the end credits. Plus, Schwartz plays the main character, he should deserve at least some credit. Loservilleas (talk) 08:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. That's what the cast section is for. Barry Wom (talk) 11:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Starring credits

Since the poster doesn't have a conventional billing block at the bottom (and I can't find a poster that does or a one sheet for the film), Template:Infobox film for the "starring attribute" suggests either the film credits for starring or something determined by local consensus. WP:STATUSQUO for article has been to use the two names above the title on the poster as that is generally reserved for starring cast. See Billing (performing arts) § Top and above-title billing. I think that is a reasonable way to decide who the starring cast is for this article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Doesn't SINGLE SCREEN credit in the end or opening titles usually reflect a conventional billing block? Wouldn't it then be more sensible to use the ending titles. Sonic the Hedgehog 2's poster has a billing block, and I changed the ''Starring'' section in the infobox and lead based off that. Zingo156 (talk) 13:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Not necessarily, it most likely reflects everyone with some significant role. It is fairly obvious who the production considers and markets as the starring cast based on the two names being listed above the title in the poster. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 also lists the starring cast at the top of the poster above the title. Even with a billing block, not every cast member listed is necessarily starring although it is usually the case. Some films list supporting cast too distinguished in some way from the starring cast usually with a smaller different font, or starring named above the title. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

The consensus at WP:MCUFILMCAST(Explanatory Supplements step 4) is to use single screen credit in the ending or opening titles of a film, as seen with Spider-man: Homecoming (which the poster has both a bottom and top billing). That page is at a good article status. I don't know, it just seems more reasonable to me than putting James Marsden and Jim Carrey as the only lead actors. Zingo156 (talk) 05:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

That is for MCU articles and applies mostly to the cast list in the article body. Starring cast in the infobox is at template:Infobox film/doc and mostly pushes billing block and poster although local concensus can modify that. Even if the film credits are used they recommend only the top billed from that for the infobox. For this article I don't see a problem with using the obvious two names at the top of the poster as infobox starring as that is a fairly blatant signal from the production of who they consider starring, and the rest of the supporting cast listed in the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)