Talk:Speak Now/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 21:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

I'll be taking a look at this! — GhostRiver 21:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• "starry-eyed romance of Fearless for" → "wistful romance of Fearless in favor of"
• Link music critics to Music journalism

Background

• "making Swift the youngest artist—20 years old at the time—to have" → "making Swift, who was 20 years old at the time, the youngest artist to have"
• "tracked album sales" → "began tracking album sales"
• Link the first instance of "singles" to Single (music)
• Besides commercial and critical recognition, Swift's status as a mainstream pop crossover star cemented. Needs some kind of clause about how this was tied to Fearless; current syntax is awkward
• "third studio album, which took place immediately"

Writing and lyrics

• "conceived her third album" → "conceived the project"
• "Swift chose not to write about themes trendy among sexualized teen idols because she wanted to stay true to her artistic vision." → "Swift chose not to follow the trend of increasingly-sexualized music by artists of her age, believing that such a path would be incongruent with her artistic vision."
• "starry-eyed Fearless." → "youthful optimism of Fearless" (reduce repetition)
• The Kanye West caption does not need a citation, as it is properly cited in the body already
• Switch em dash for commas around "who had produced for Swift since her self-titled debut album"
• "recommended Swift to choose a different title" → "recommended that Swift choose a different title"
• "She settled with the title" → "She settled on the title"

Production and composition

• Comma after "to tweak some elements"
• "he had mixed some tracks on Fearless." → "he had previously collaborated with Swift for some tracks on Fearless."

• Isn't this more wordy? Ippantekina (talk) 02:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

• "album's genre category."
• The Paste review also mentions some country elements
• "The remaining tracks on Speak Now"
• ""Dear John"—at six minutes and 43 seconds, the longest track on Speak Now—is a" → ""Dear John", the longest track at six minutes and 43 seconds, is a"

Release and promotion

Marketing

• "Swift announced the titles of the album Speak Now and the lead single "Mine"." → "Swift announced that a 14-track album titled Speak Now was due for release on October 25, and that the lead single, titled "Mine", would drop in mid-August." (all congruent with source)
• "The tracks released were "Speak Now" (October 5)" → "This promotion began with the title track on October 5, followed by"
• Link Elizabeth Arden to Elizabeth Arden, Inc. – the current target links to the person, not the company

Singles

• Comma after "November 15, 2010" per MOS:DATECOMMA

Touring

• Comma after "Omaha, Nebraska" per MOS:GEOCOMMA
• The "in total" feels disingenuous when only talking about the North American dates
• "announced extending" → "announced an extension"
• "When it completed" → "Upon its completion"

Commercial performance

• "The Carter III" → "Tha Carter III"
• ""Fastest-selling"" → ""[f]astest-selling""

Critical reception

• Link "critics" to Music journalism
• Mention the AnyDecentMusic? rating in the body as well

Accolades and reappraisal

• Who was Speak Now behind in the NYT rankings?
• "In retrospect" → "In a 2019 retrospective"

Track listing

• Should use the track listing template
  • Because the album has one writer and two producers, I followed WP:TRACKLIST (which says that the template is not always the best option) and an example at Cut the Crap, which is less bulky than the template. Ippantekina (talk) 03:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Personnel

• What does "national" mean in terms of musicianship?
  • Whoops, a glitch. Removed. Ippantekina (talk) 03:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Charts

• Purely for aesthetic reasons, I would move the year-end charts to be side-by-side with the weeklies, and then have decade and all-time below

Certifications and sales

• Good

References

• Great!

General comments

• Images are either Creative Commons or are fair use, and all are relevant
• Audio clips run within 30 seconds and is appropriately used to demonstrate a point
• No stability concerns in the revision history
• Earwig is breaking, so I am assuming good faith on the copyvios, and the spot checks I did turned up OK

Finally got through this – thank you for bearing with me, it was something of a long article. Putting on hold for now; feel free to ping me with questions, and let me know when you're finished. — GhostRiver 19:41, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

All done. I was worried this GAN would take a long time to finalize because reviewers are usually reluctant to review such a long article. Thank you very much for reviewing the article :) Ippantekina (talk) 02:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for making those changes, and apologies for the delay – currently fighting off a depressive phase. This looks good to go! — GhostRiver 01:13, 31 October 2021 (UTC)