Talk:Squab pie/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 10:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   The prose is adequate and conveys the subject of the article well. It follows the established guidelines for the lead (1-2 paragraphs for an article this size), is properly laid out, does not contain weasel words or peacock statements and does not have lists or is a bout a fictional subject (no in-universe problems)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (references):

   The article is well referenced. I personally dislike citations in the middle of a sentence in favor of placing them after punctuation, however the existing format is allowable per WP:Citing sources.

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   The sources are all reliable secondary sources

   c. (OR):

   None that I can find.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   The article sufficiently covers the history of the subject as well as its place in the culinary traditions of Great Briton and its cultural and societal descendants.

   b. (focused):

   Very much focused on the subject.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   The article is neutral in tone. Good here.

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   It is stable, in fact it has a very small edit history.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   The image provided meets the standards of images used in articles.

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

1. I have looked at the easy subject of the GA checklist and the first major issue I found was that the article does not have any images. AN article such as this really needs images to show what the subject of the article looks like. Please take the time to find some images from Commons or flickr. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 10:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

   Not certain what to do about this, as there's nothing on Commons or Flickr that match the licence. I cannot in good conscience say that any pie pictures are fair use or show the wrong sort of pie, so the obvious option is to actually make the pie... and I don't know when I'll next be able to get the ingredients... Worm 09:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

   Lets try the WP:UK, see if anyone over there has anything... --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 09:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I've created an image. It's not great due to a rubbish camera, and I will be improving it in the future, but for now it's real image :D Worm 17:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

That's the sign of a dedicated wikipedian! You will let us know what it tasted like, won't you? I did look for an illustration in my refs, but found nothing.  —SMALLJIM  22:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I feel terrible for misleading you but I didn't finish making it! I had no flour for pastry so I turned it into a stew. And jolly nice it was too! I'll be making this one at some point though, when I get a better camera! Worm 23:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah - I was fooled by the cunningly-positioned rolling pin. I suppose the beer went in the stew as well...

To be serious a moment, I'm not sure that the bit in the Poetry section about Sandys' book is correct. I looked at the source, but couldn't see (1) where he says that he dined on squab pie a couple of times (there's a mention on page 58, but I think it's part of a story); or (2) that he wrote the poem exactly as the gentleman spoke (all I can see is on page 7 which says: "The account of the Squab Pie, was written it is said by a gentleman of Bodmin", which I read - re-punctuating it - as "The account of the Squab Pie was written, it is said, by a gentleman of Bodmin"). Can you check these two points?  —SMALLJIM  23:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Yep, the beer did go in... and I'm glad you fell into my evil rolling pin trap. Bwhahahah! Sorry, appear to have turned into a mad scientist, where was I? Oh yes, on re-reading, it appears the only bit of Sandy's book which describes what he actually did is the introduction, so yes, I agree with 1, it appears to be a story. Also, I mis-read the "was written it is said" to "was written as it is said"... a word that wasn't there. How foolish. I'll edit the text accordingly. Worm 09:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Verjuice or cider would go well in a mutton or pigeon pie, & I think I will have to get some decent cider for this pie. :) Verjuice will have to wait for the crab-apples. Archolman 23:11, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

So what's happening. Images are NOT a GA requirement. One other issue remains, is it resolved? GA reviews should be sorted within a week or two. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I gave Jerem43 a nudge last week User talk:Jerem43#Squab pie and he replied on my talk page that he would be looking last weekend. I'll chase him up today Worm^TT 07:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

And your nudge was taken. Sorry, I had some issues in the real world that prevented me from devoting the the proper amount of time needed to do this. I apologize to you. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 21:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

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