Talk:St. Bernard (dog breed)/Archive 2

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Temperament Misleading?

First off, I acknowledge that a) I'm entirely biased b) I don't have sources and c) I have no idea how to edit a wikipedia article. The Saint Bernards are very nice and gentle. They are great with children and are called "gentle giants" by most people. They are very sweet! But in American culture, Saint Bernards are generally accepted as "gentle giants." Historically, there were some aggression problems, but that's really been bred out of the them, and they're extremely gentle, mellow dogs. I can find resources for this if you want. And while I know Wikipedia doesn't want to sound repetitive in the temperament sections for dog breeds, I think you should really mention this, at least because the current temperament section makes them sound quite aggressive... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.13.137 (talk) 03:50, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2014

I find article that doesn't has proof source. So, I need to add reference for that article for proof it.
Article that I need to approve: St. Bernard > Notability > Legends > Manchester United section Proof Resource : http://www.unitedonline.co.uk/history/1902-1931.php, http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Manchester_United/Manchester_United.htm Polwath (talk) 12:19, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 14:58, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Explain from abrove: I want to add references for that article that still has [citation needed]. And add citation on that articles for references.

That article that I need to proof it: St. Bernard > Notability > Legends > "A St Bernard named Major is often credited with being the dog that helped save Manchester United........" article.

St. vs. Saint

I have seen both St. and Saint used to refer to the dog, but St. seems to be the only used spelling on this page. Is it officially St., or spelled out? Or are both acceptable? I know that on the wikipedia pages of real saints, the first and formal writing of their name is always spelled out S-A-I-N-T, but I'm not sure if it applies to our canine companions as well. 69.81.181.107 (talk) 00:55, 06 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the official Kennel Club name is 'St. Bernard'.St. Bernard--that annoying guy who shows up sometimes because... you know, bored (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

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Barrel

In the section St._Bernard_(dog)#In_media, it says that "The monks of the St. Bernard Hospice deny that any St. Bernard has ever carried casks or small barrels around their necks". There is a link to a source for this information, but it is a dead link. Does someone have a fresh link for this statement? Laurier (talk) 08:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2016

MAINTENANCE: The daily exercise requirements of the Saint Bernard are met with moderate walks. The dog is best when raised outdoors, keeping it away from smooth surfaces. Oversized puppies, which are brought up indoors, are susceptible to hip problems. Saint Bernards have double coat. It protects them from severe cold as well as heat. But by origin, Saint Bernard is not tolerant of heat; in fact, it loves cold weather. It does best when given access to the yard and the house. The coat requires weekly brushing and more frequently during shedding season. In addition, many St. Bernards have a tendency to drool. Saint Bernards also carry musty smell. The must be bathed minimum once in 10 days with a shampoo meant specifically for dogs.<http://www.petmd.com/dog/breeds/c_dg_saint_bernard accessed on 19.12.2016> Surabhis (talk) 07:11, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  04:14, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2017

Spelling should be Dubuque, IA not Dabuque

Another famous St Bernarld was Cedric. Owned by George Vanderbilt, a statue of Cedric can be found on the grounds at Biltmore in North Carolina.

Gpcoupe (talk) 16:13, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Partly done: I only corrected the Dabuque/Dubuque error. I'll leave this request open for another editor to complete the request. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 16:48, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Izno (talk) 21:58, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

References

Confusion between standard origin and origin of the breed

Monasteries and hospices were built and run by the same monk brotherhood on both passes. They are located few miles away from each other. The famous Pierre Chanoux and his consorts lived at the little St. Bernard pass. The most famous Saint Bernard dog named Rutor was raised at the little Saint hospice. See article linked. From the creation of the order, the construction of the monasteries and hospices up to 1860, the region between the two passes was administered by Savoy. The Great and Little saint bernard passes are both used since prehistoric time and the little one was even more used the its Swiss counterpart until the arrival of Napoleon that built a major commercial route on the great St. Bernard pass. They could not have created the standard and raised the breed solely at one of their only two monasteries and hospices, keep in mind that monks were travelling back and forth between the two locations very frequently. Each year celebrations are held at both passes commemorating the birth of the breed standard as it is detailed in one of the ref of the article. Please do not make any confusion between the origin of the standard that is attributed by the FCI to one country in order to hold and manage the breed standard and the history of the origin on a dog breed Hope these details will help--Gabriel HM (talk) 18:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Breeding Goals at Barry Foundation in Martigny

The article states the following - but notes lacking citation: "The dogs at the Barry Foundation are reportedly smaller than the average St Bernard."

I'm in the process of buying a puppy from the Barry Foundation breeding center. I spent an afternoon at the station in Martigny (NOT the museum - it's a different location), exchanged several emails and phone calls with their breeding director, Manuel Gaillard. He told me that this statement is correct. Specifically, he told me that the Barry Foundation is currently seeking to reestablish the breed along the lines of the "Barry" dogs as they existed in the 19th century - i.e., relatively small, athletic and more often short-haired. Their ideal weight for a fully grown male is the 70-80 kg range, females 60-70 kg.

Since Manual sets the breeding guidelines, this information is as reliable as it gets; however, I can't provide an inline as it'S all verbal. Is it OK to include this? (Sorry, I don't even have a Wiki account, just wanted to help. 217.22.138.132 (talk) 20:14, 9 November 2019 (UTC) )

Gallery

I'd fix it myself, but I'm on an iPhone and don't want to screw up the layout for anyone else. The images are way too intrusive as they are, they need to be shrunk down and/or rearranged. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)