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Parking this here: SmartSE (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC) Korey has been featured in publications including Entrepreneur,[1] Fast Company,[2] The New York Times,[3] Inc.,[4] CNBC,[5] The Business of Fashion,[6] The Wall Street Journal,[7] Vogue[8] and TIME.[9]Reply

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Latest comment: 3 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, this is Steph Korey. I'd like to propose a few changes and additions to this article. Thanks in advance for considering my suggestions.

  1. In the infobox, please remove the "Title" field, as I am no longer serving in those capacities at Away (source). Also in the infobox, please change my husband's name from "Pedro" to "Peter" (source).
  2. To reflect the change in my role at Away, please change the first sentence of the article to: "Stephanie Korey is an American businesswoman and co-founder of the luggage retailer Away."
  3. In the "Early life" section, please remove the words "in a 55,000-square-foot historic mansion with an indoor swimming pool and three dining rooms." This is a gratuitous and undue level of detail that adds nothing of substance to the section.
  4. The "Away" section:
    • In the "late 2019" paragraph, please change the word "revealed" to "alleged," as the idea that the workplace was "toxic" was reported by the source as allegations rather than as an objective fact.
    • Also in the "late 2019" paragraph, condense the three sentences beginning "On December 9, 2019..." into one sentence for clarity and to avoid undue weight. The new sentence should be: "In January 2020, Korey became co-CEO along with Stuart Haselden after first planning in December 2019 to step down as CEO."
    • The level of detail in the "late June 2020" paragraph is another example of undue weight. Please shorten the paragraph to: "In July 2020, Away announced that Korey would be stepping down as co-CEO within the year, following the publication of an anonymous letter from employees criticizing Korey for social media posts she had written in late June."
    • Please add a final paragraph to the section to update regarding the change in my role at Away: In October 2020, Stuart Haselden took over as the sole CEO of the company and Korey is continuing to serve on the board of directors. [10]
  5. Please add an "Awards and recognition" section listing the following items:

References

  1. ^ Korey, Steph (2018-06-20). "Why Embracing Failure Is Good for Business". Entrepreneur. Archived from the original on 2018-10-22. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  2. ^ "Save Your Money, Skip The MBA, And Go To Startup Grad School Instead". Fast Company. 2016-08-31. Archived from the original on 2018-10-22. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  3. ^ "Did You Pack Too Much? Your Suitcase Knows". Archived from the original on 2018-10-22. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  4. ^ "How This Company Launched With Zero Products--and Hit $12 Million in First-Year Sales". Inc.com. 2017-06-28. Archived from the original on 2018-07-11. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  5. ^ Elkins, Kathleen (2018-02-12). "Columbia MBA and multimillion-dollar start-up founder: Here's what business school can't teach you". CNBC. Archived from the original on 2018-08-04. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  6. ^ "Away Raises $50 Million to Build a Better Carry-On Bag". The Business of Fashion. 2018-06-28. Archived from the original on 2018-10-22. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  7. ^ Velasco, Haley (2018-05-23). "Does Smart Luggage Really Make Travel Easier?". Wall Street Journal. ISSN 0099-9660. Archived from the original on 2018-10-22. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  8. ^ "The Perfect Carry-On Bag Has Arrived—And It's Under $250". Vogue. Archived from the original on 2019-04-03. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  9. ^ "The Boss: The Founders of Away Have 3 Tips for Female Entrepreneurs". Time. Archived from the original on 2018-11-02. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  10. ^ Primack, Dan (2020-10-15). "Steph Korey steps down as Away's CEO (again)". Axios.
  11. ^ "30 Under 30 2016: Retail & Ecommerce". Forbes. 2016-01-04.
  12. ^ EY. "EY Announces Winners for the Entrepreneur Of The Year® 2018 New York Award". www.prnewswire.com. Archived from the original on 2018-06-15. Retrieved 2018-10-21.
  13. ^ "40 Under 40 2019 Steph Korey". Crain's New York Business. 2019-03-24.
  14. ^ "Steph Korey & Jen Rubio – BoF 500". The Business of Fashion. 2019-08-13.

Thank you, Stephkg (talk) 15:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

  1. Done
  2. Done
  3. Partially done, I think that the "55,000-square-foot historic mansion" is worth keeping, but the swimming pool etc. is excessive detail
    • Not done - it seems to be accepted by e.g. The NYT that there was a toxic culture and Korey apologised as such, so it is not an allegation.
    • For the rest, I've partially implemented it.
  5. Not done - we require sources which are independent of the awarding organisation to merit inclusion. Even if they are mentioned in other sources, that does not necessarily mean that they merit inclusion. SmartSE (talk) 17:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Smartse: Thanks for taking the time to respond to my request and for making the changes that you made. Regarding the awards, I understand your point that not all awards merit inclusion. But I would think that at least the awards that are notable in their own right should be included, i.e., Forbes 30 Under 30 and Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award, plus 40 Under 40 (source), which I did not mention in my initial request. Also, two of those awards were mentioned in independent sources: here and here. Thanks again, Stephkg (talk) 13:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Follow-up edit request

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Latest comment: 3 years ago5 comments4 people in discussion

Hi, it's Steph again, suggesting a few more additions.

  1. In the first paragraph of the Away section, please add the following sentence right after the words "... was unable to find a suitcase on the market.": "Korey and Rubio conducted surveys and focus groups to understand what travelers wanted from their luggage."[1] [2]
  2. At the end of the first paragraph of the Away section, add the following reference in place of the "citation needed" note:[3]
  3. Please add a "Personal life" section with the sentence: "Korey is married and lives in New York."[4]
  4. Please add an "Awards and recognition" section listing the following awards. (I've amended the list from my previous request to include only awards that are notable in their own right, following helpful feedback from Smartse.)

References

  1. ^ Elkins, Kathleen (2018-02-12). "Columbia MBA and multimillion-dollar start-up co-founder: Here's what business school doesn't teach you". CNBC.
  2. ^ Farra, Emily (2016-11-09). "The Perfect Carry-On Bag Has Arrived—And It's Under $250". Vogue.
  3. ^ Feldman, Amy (2018-11-20). "Next Billion-Dollar Startups: How Two Young Entrepreneurs Used Relentless Online Marketing To Build Away Into A $700M Luggage Brand". Forbes.
  4. ^ https://www.inc.com/author/steph-korey
  5. ^ Hoffower, Hillary (2019-12-31). "4 of the buzziest billion-dollar startups of 2019 were founded by millennials. Meet the power players redefining their fields". Business Insider.
  6. ^ Hartel, Heather (2018-06-18). "EY's 2018 Entrepreneur of the Year New York winners". New York Business Journal.
  7. ^ "Steph Korey and Jen Rubio". Fortune. 2019-07-10.

Thanks again, Stephkg (talk) 14:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Stephkg: in response to your request:

  1.   Not done: even though your request here is sourced, I personally think it may be excessive detail, and would be too detailed to include in the article. I'm not sure if other editors may disagree with me or not, so if you disagree with me, feel free to explain why.
  2.   Done
  3.   Not done: the source you've given doesn't say that. Can you provide a source which supports that statement?
  4.   Done

Seagull123 Φ 16:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Seagull123: Thanks for your reply. Here is a WP:ABOUTSELF source for a "Personal life" section with the sentence, "Korey is married and lives in New York": [1]. Since that source is my official website, perhaps it could also be added to the infobox and to External links.
Also, I see that DGG has removed the Awards section. It is my understanding that if an award is notable in its own right, then it is worth including in a biography article, and DGG's assertion that these awards are "PR awards" with "no other significance" seems to be unsupported. But of course I'll respect whatever the consensus turns out to be on this point. Thanks! Stephkg (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Personal life is   Done; I've assumed you meant the city and not the state. I have no opinion about the 40 for 40. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

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I do not think adding 4) was appropriate, and I removed it as an uninvovled editor. At AfD discussion in the past few years, awards for 30 under 30 and the like have been usually taken to indicate "Not Yet Notable". They're purely PR awards, they are organized so a great many people get the awards in mone or anotther of the very many categories, and have no other significance. Since the article has not been deleted, it should at least limit itself to what's significant. DGG ( talk ) 00:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Undue weight in Away section

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Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, this is Steph Korey. I'm proposing that the second and third paragraphs of the Away section be changed to the content below. There is undue weight here being put on these events that contradict Wikipedia's stance on WP:RECENTISM. Obviously, these events occurred and will be in the article, as will the references, but they are given undue weight here to the size of the article and the other events in my life.

Proposed new wording:

In December 2019, following an investigative report by The Verge which highlighted Korey's role in allegedly contributing to a toxic workplace at Away, the company announced that Korey would be replaced as CEO by Stuart Haselden but would continue to serve as Away's executive chairwoman.[1][2][3][4] In January it was announced that Korey had reversed her decision, and would instead serve as co-CEO along with Haselden.[5] In July 2020, Haselden and Rubio announced that Korey would be stepping down as co-CEO, and that Haselden would take over as sole CEO "within the year," following the publication of an anonymous letter from Away employees criticizing Korey for social media posts she had written in late June.[6] Korey stepped down from her position as CEO at Away in October 2020 but remained on the board of directors.[7]

References

  1. ^ Schiffer, Zoe (2019-12-05). "Former Away employees describe a toxic work environment at the luggage company". The Verge. Retrieved 2019-12-21.
  2. ^ Bellstrom, Kristen (December 6, 2019). "Away Founders Use 'Inclusivity' to Respond to Toxic Culture Claims". Fortune. Archived from the original on December 6, 2019. Retrieved December 7, 2019.
  3. ^ Schiffer, Zoe (2020-07-07). "Away faces staff revolt as employees call for Steph Korey to step down". The Verge. Retrieved 2021-01-23.
  4. ^ Cite error: The named reference :5 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  5. ^ "Away C.E.O. Is Back, Just Weeks After Stepping Down". 2020-01-13.
  6. ^ Schiffer, Zoë (2 July 2020). "Away says co-CEO Steph Korey will step down this year after her attacks on the media". The Verge. Retrieved 3 July 2020.
  7. ^ Primack, Dan (15 October 2020). "Steph Korey steps down as Away's CEO (again)". Axios. Retrieved 5 November 2020.

Thank you for your consideration. Stephkg (talk) 16:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Not done The proposed changes whitewash important details from the article. There are numerous sources discussing these events, so it is not at all undue for this to be given the prominence it currently has in the article. It is already a fairly brief summary of what's been written. SmartSE (talk) 17:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
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