Talk:Straight-through processing

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Malcolmxl5 in topic References

Loopholes of STP

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what are the loopholes of STP.

common sense - with some more time I will care for this... stub. Still I suggest you sign next time. --Martin0815 (talk) 10:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hardly an advert?

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The mention of a small, unknown, company, making its business around the NYSE, that is, with no international reach, is not only an advert, it is irrelevant. It offers e-trading onto a hand-held device. That has nothing to do with STP. This amalgam between e-trading and STP is deceiving and dishonest. And anyway Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia ; it is no place to single out any vendor.Bmathis (talk) 22:38, 10 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

You deleted an entire paragraph that appears to have far more significance than one small, unknown company. Whilst your point is valid, and you probably know more about the detail of the NYSE's history than I do, this looks like a job for editing rather than a block deletion. Your deletion left a gaping hole. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Request for comment

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REMOVE:

The consensus is to remove all references to James Karat and the assertion that he invented straight-through processing because the information fails Wikipedia:Verifiability owing to the lack of sources. There is no prejudice against restoring the information if it can be reliably sourced.

Cunard (talk) 05:28, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Although a request for citation has been present since May 2017, there have been no citations added to support the claims that Mr James Karat "invented" STP. STP is a well known concept and not an invention created by a single person. It is simply the automation of business processes. There is no mention of what role Mr Karat played in the automation of the process - it appears he was working on an automation project anyway, so is it actually the case that he was the "jobber" and not a business process architect, system architect, system developer or any person who could have claim to "inventing" a concept. It appears that the entries have been made by Mr Karat himself and not someone independent. In fact in April 2016 the Edit History shows Graeme Austin commenting "Origination of phrase is in fact in dispute. James Karat may have been the first but I was deeply involved in STP in the early 90s in London and he is not known to me."

Should references to Mr Karat be removed?

Justiceforstp (talk) 12:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply


The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Factually incorrect

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Someone (James Karat?) who is not logged into Wikipedia (as well as user Jasperjak) is undoing other people's edits and claiming that they are verified by a Visa evidence: "STP payments only occurred after STP was invented as per Visa evidence." or "as per confirmation from industry." However, this evidence is not provided nor linked to on the page.

STP in Payments existed before the early 1990's when Mr Karat claims to have invented STP in equities trading. See for example this workshop from 1992 related to software systems using AI to provide higher STP rates in payments (such as Ingenia's FircoSoft): Adaptive Intelligent Systems: Proceedings of the BANKAI workshop, Brussels, Belgium, 12-14 October 1992[1], which is now marketed as Firco STP Factory[2] or this list of vendors[3] including Cognitive Systems Inc with software SwiftFix. Another conference from 1990: The Eight National Conference on Artificial Intelligence[4]

--Jedison brussels (talk) 09:17, 5 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

References

References

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At the bottom of the References section is this: Correct Link for reference 2 is below http://www.sebi.gov.in/sebi_data/faqfiles/jan-2017/1485846723481.pdf. What is it? --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:24, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Reply