Talk:Sussi (cloth)

Another one

... of Rajiv's new names for plain weave cotton fabric. We've never had a new name for plain weave cotton before. how interesting. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 11:15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

It all looks a bit confused. The lead says that it was a particular type of striped cotton fabric, but this is contradicted by the very first sentence of the body, which says it was a generic term for striped cloth. The source used to support the sentence “The cloth was in use for shirts and pajamas, shalwar kameez, etc.” doesn’t seem to mention “sussi” as far as I can see, but it does mention a “striped silk called susi”, and doesn’t say it was used for any of the garments mentioned in the sentence it’s cited for. The entire section headed “predjudice” is sourced to a book that as far as I can see doesn’t actually mention “sussi” or “susi” (the edition Rajiv linked to wasn’t searchable, but a slightly later edition is and a search for either of these terms returns no hits), but is about striped cloth in general. This is also the source used for the opening paragraph of the “history” section.

If “sussi” just means striped cloth then this should probably be redirected to Stripe (pattern), if it is a specific type of cloth all the material about striped cloth generally or other types of striped cloth, or with sources about these used as references, needs to be removed. Brunton (talk) 13:52, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

RAJIVVASUDEV, any comment? Brunton (talk) 14:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Brunton Hi! ::Initially, Sussi cloth was a section in Stripe (pattern) and separated because I was asked to do so by User Lambit Stan. See here [[1]]. Improvements at any level are welcome! "Prejudice" is very much related to the topic, cloths(fashion) Thanks RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 07:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but it isn’t related to the topic Sussi cloth, unless sussi is just a generic term for striped cloth. It’s not about “cloth produced in the Indian subcontinent in the 17th century”, it refers to medieval Europe. Brunton (talk) 07:35, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

They all are inter-related to each other. And we are emphasizing here on a patterned cloth with stripes and, yes, touching intentionally the Pattern a little bit because Pattern was criticized in the past and still used in the textiles and fashion industry.RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 08:41, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you supply the article title and author for reference no. 1 (HALI: The International Journal of Oriental Carpets and Textiles)? At present it only gives the name of the journal, the year and a page number. Brunton (talk) 14:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I shall fix it. Regards RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 07:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Done. RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 10:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Sussi cloth is another reference work

Sir, Sussi cloth is another because of the fact of its identity, and the uniqueness bears to itself alone. Cotton is the most used fiber for centuries, and Plain weave is an effective method of manufacturing textiles that may have many many many fabrics of handloom and handicrafts with unmatching sameness. Various materials were named differently with their composition, manufacturing methods, different textures and weight, characteristics, intended use, and origin. Kindly help me to elaborate on this another encyclopedic and exciting topic. Best regards RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 04:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

This is bull. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 09:17, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

No Sir, It was a striped cloth. Thanks and regards RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 10:36, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Plain weave or warp faced? Which?

Warp and Weft While most weaving is weft-faced, warp-faced textiles are created using densely arranged warp threads. In these the design is in the warp, requiring all colors to be decided upon and placed during the first part of the weaving process, which cannot be changed. Such limitations of color placement create weavings defined by length-wise stripes and vertical designs. And Susi was a plain fabric with warp vertical stripes.. ThanksRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 07:06, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Most weaving is not "weft faced" at all. So plain weave, not warp faced, Yes? -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 09:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Most weaving is weft faced or warp faced is not the subject matter here, the text is from Warp and Weft, we should correct it there only. Coming back to the relevant matter, In weft-faced weaving, the warp is completely hidden by the weft. And in warp-faced, the weft is hidden. The word plain in the text Sussi (cloth) is to inform that the weave is neither satin nor Twill . I hope it is easy now.  Thank you very much!RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 10:36, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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