Talk:Swahili coast

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History

What does this sentence mean?:

The Indian Ocean world is a region whose historical developments are illuminated by the cycles of the Eurasian and African world system.

Without access to the alleged reference, it reads like just so much hollow bombast.

- Zulu Kane (talk) 06:39, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

It's copied pretty much directly from the Beaujard article. I'm going to go ahead and delete the whole World Systems section, but preserve a link somewhere to that article. Ninafundisha (talk) 16:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

World-systems theory

All of this text about and inspired by "World-systems theory" is — allegedly — supported by a single (recurring) reference. And none of it provides concrete or supported information about the actual history of the The Swahili Coast. Unless someone can provide a more verifiable reference and concrete reasoning, I think all of it should be deleted.

- Zulu Kane (talk) 07:04, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I would agree. Ninafundisha (talk) 21:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Dispute over whether or not the Swahili coast is in western Kenya

I am involved in a dispute over User:Khysion's insistence that the Swahili coast is in western Kenya instead of along the Indian Ocean coast. There is a lengthy discussion on his talk page, and moderators on the dispute resolution noticeboard have indicated that I need to bring this discussion to the article talk pages as well. I would like the lead paragraphs on both this page and on Swahili people to be corrected - the Swahili coast is not in western Kenya, nor along the western coast of eastern Africa at all. It's on the eastern coast, along the Indian Ocean. This seems obvious to me. Thanks. Ninafundisha (talk) 22:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

• I corrected mysellf. I meant western coast of Kenya since you want it detailed.

• • This doesn't make sense either. The western coast of Kenya would be the part that borders Lake Victoria, which is not part of the Swahili coast. Ninafundisha (talk) 23:28, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 28 April 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 03:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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Swahili coast → Swahili Coast – article uses capital C, per WPMOS on placenames. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:MOSCAPS. As much as I personally prefer CAPS for placenames, sources don't support them in this case. (e.g., this). —  AjaxSmack  23:47, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. The lede clearly defines the term descriptively, it is not a proper name. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:43, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Settlements Section

Hello. Several of the "major" ports listed here are small to medium towns. I propose cleaning up this list to include only reasonably large settlements and giving a little information about them instead of just having them in a list. --Kmubeen (talk) 19:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Indigenous Coinage

"Previously, it was believed that the coins from the Swahili coast were of Persian origin, but now it is recognized that these are in fact indigenous coins.[21]."

The source cited claims no such thing. It states that minting may have occurred at places on the coast but no die has every been found. For them to be indigenous coins the die would have to have been constructed on the coast and the mint located as well. It also suggests that the scarcity of coin finds (hoards) along the coast would actually imply that trade using coinage was not widespread and would only occur at very select sites (i.e. Kilwa). It is likely that trade in the interior was not done by coin (shells/beads/other) and that coinage was reserved for trade systems that acknowledged its worth.

2001:8003:70F5:2400:2D02:A0CE:F26F:478F (talk) 22:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)