Talk:Tanpura

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More photos added. Now all I need to have the whole family complete is a nice pic of a Tanjore Tambura, and i know just where to get it!Martin spaink (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC) Gone over it again, this time, I added bibliographic references Martin spaink (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC) Photo of Tanjore-style Carnatic tambura added, more references to relevant literature addedMartin spaink (talk) 19:40, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Copyright

I just fell over an article at the Encyclopedia of NationMaster. And this article remembers me heavily to that one we have here at WP. So a violation of copyright? - See the source on your own and proof: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tambura

So what to do? - Waiting till an admin status checks out... --ElJay Arem (talk) 18:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Fortunately, this one is not a problem. :) NationMaster is a "mirror" of Wikipedia. If you look at the bottom of the page, you'll see that they explicitly reference us. Their article duplicates ours from some time around or after this period: [1]. If you look at the top of the page, you'll see that's when the two tags--one proposing a merge to Pandura and one requesting copyediting as of January 2007, where both tags were in place. Thanks for keeping an eye out! --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 21:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Yesterday I did a Google search 'tanpura + jivari'. This article, or parts of its contents, is copied on a very large scale, even by instrumentmakers in India on their websites, though hardly anyone credits Wikipedia as the source of the information, which would be the polite thing to do. Martin spaink (talk) 08:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

These should be reported at Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Merge and Split tag

Please put your comments on Talk:Pandura. Duja 08:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

• Confused. Somebody wanted the two articles merged, and somebody else wants them split. The two articles are describing variants of the lute from India. We need somebody that knows the difference between these two instruments before we can proceed. Or infact are they the same? Has anybody seen both instruments? -- Emana 03:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now I see. I've read through Talk:Pandura and see that content has been merged over time. There is nothing more to merge. -- Emana 03:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

• • Hello, Folks... long, long waiting this article to be cleared. About the basic question: Splitting? - Answer: "Why?". There should be some deeper going reasons behind. In Indian music we call this specific kind of "drone" Tanpura (or Tambura) and Tamburi. We have the "instrumental Tanpura", the female (middle size, deper tone than the instrumental) and the male (big size and deepet tone). The article here about set the right basis. - All three kind of drones have different functions and shall be used for specific stage performances. - All togther they belong to the bigger family of Drones (e.g. Ottu, Ektar, Dotar or Surpeti) which exist in India. For Indian music these drones have a very specific function because of the "accord free" (intervall free) modal structure of Indian Classical Music (North Indian = Hindustani, South Indian = Carnatic) + Folk music and Film Music (Not only Bollywood, same for Hindi, Maharati or RabindranathSangeet) and Indian Light Classical Music... The aspect of modal structure should be made more clear in the article.
  • What I miss further are some pictures of these instruments, and some detail images about the specific parts of the neck tuning mechanisms. - And clear tables/graphics for the tuning (Raga Scales + Frequences). There exist some videos about tuning the Tampura, might be helpful to link them. The pure text here about is not easy to understand for "non professionals". I am not specialist in making tables here at Wikipedia, maybe somebody can pick up the datas and put them into some nice table forms.
  • Not enough today we have "Electronic Tanpuras", so called Sruti Boxes (still exist instrumental boxes similar to Harmonium but mostly used electronically). I think in the 21st century we shall give in such an article this aspect space, less link it with the right cagetory).
  • You see, that such drones cover a wide range within the Indian classical Music. Therefore I think it's legitimated to split the article and same give the drones in South East European Countries a deeper going perspective with an own article. --ElJay Arem (talk) 21:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Nota Bene: why be redirected anywhere else where I want to be? I'm on the pages for discussion of lemma Tambura. That's what I would like to discuss. I also think there should be a separate lemma 'Tanpura' linked to 'Tambura' as to distinctive forms of the same general idea of the instrument in India. Persons wanting to look up 'Tanpura' should get straight there, carnatic lovers typing 'Tambura' deserve the same treatment, so come on, some body up there fix this please! Martinuddin (talk) 13:41, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

• Zivojin Misic:

The map with the borders of illegal state of Kosovo must be removed. There is no need for maps with borders that are not recognised by UN Security Council. That kind of things makes wikipedia less precise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.143.221.71 (talk) 01:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

you must include the materials —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.212.137.140 (talk) 08:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Move / rename suggestion

I propose that this article be moved to Tanpura, and this Tambura page be turned into a dismbigation page, with links to:

• Tamburica orchestra instruments
• the Turkish Tambur
• the Persian Tanbur
• the Greek Tambouras
• a new article for the Macedonian and Bulgarian Tambura, which is currently missing, but here is the German page: [2].
• the Tambura River in Romania
• a new article for the place called Tambura in South Sudan. Again, German wiki has one: [3]

Tanpura is a commonly used name for the Indian instrument, both on google and other language wikis, and helps to avoid confusion with the large number of instruments that are also often referred to using the name 'tambura'.

Your thoughts, please?

Emma dusepo (talk) 11:28, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

• Couldn't agree more. --E4024 (talk) 11:56, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Now Tambura is disambiguation page, but most of them (such as Tanpura (instrument), Tanbur, Tambur) are the same instrument in different dialects, and it's a great wp:Content forking.--Taranet (talk) 10:04, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Content forking

Most of the articles listed in Tambura (such as Tanpura (instrument), Tanbur, Tambur) are the same instrument in different dialects, and it's a great wp:Content forking.--Taranet (talk) 10:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

They are actually all quite different instruments, as you can see from the articles. Emma dusepo (talk) 20:45, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Could use a citation for the alternate tunings

I was reading this article, and it talks about alternate tunings, and I thought to myself, "ooo, a piece with a drone that has a major 7 in it sounds neat", but after 10 minutes of googling I can't find any performances where the tanpura isn't just tuned in a boring old open 5 chord lol. Are we sure this is actually used? Some examples might be good. 8.9.94.89 (talk) 09:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

It's definitely used, for raags that lack a shuddha ma and pa - see here for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpmWbRPfpQ I added a reference to an article that mentions it. 45.48.9.194 (talk) 02:17, 15 January 2022 (UTC)