Talk:Tariqa

List/Table

Part of this might be beyond the scope of the Wikipedia--it might be a Wiki/Encyclopedia in it's own. But shouldn't we start a table-style break up kinda like the one at: http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encyclopedia/islam/sufi/index.html but listing individuals and starting at Abu Bakar and Ali and bringing it to the present day.

Something like the table below (adapted from my suggestion at Talk:Caliph and Talk:Shia Imam ):

PLEASE: I know the facts below are not yet right; these are placeholders. But then, using the Imams as a template for this isn't too inappropriate, is it?

Ali
Hasan
Hussain
...
...
Zaidi	Others
Zaid	Musa Kazim
...	...
Zaidi	Ismaili	Others
...	...

and so on.

—iFaqeer (Talk to me!)

One edit.

I think this makes a little more sense now. The latter two-thirds is still rather odd, as far as I can judge. Unless we are talking about different concepts.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 01:27, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

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I suspect that this issue should be resolved by someone with a bit more background in the history of Tassawuf/Sufism than myself. However, Gohar Shahi is not the founder of the Qadiriyyah Tariqah (as is apparent from following the link on the page). Abdul-Qadir Gilani was the founder in the 12th century A.D.!! Shahi is either still alive or just recently deceased (depending on whom you ask). Either way, he had no connection with founding the Qadiriyyah Order.

Mark A. Foster, Ph.D. (talk) 20:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Clarify relationship to Islam?

Speaking as a totally uninformed reader, I think it would be helpful to clarify in the intro that this article is related to Islam. I know I'm simplifying tremendously here, but I'm understanding that Tariqa is a subset of a subset of Islam; clarifying that right at the beginning of the article would be really helpful for someone who doesn't know what Sufism is. Even clicking through to "Sufism" doesn't immediately clarify the issue, though I don't think there are changes necessary to the "Sufism" article.

Thanks.

LittleWalrus (talk) 20:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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Misuse of sources

@37.111.217.111: In response to your edit ([1]) Could you please explain how Tmh General Knowledge Manual, written and published by a non-scholarly source, is WP:RS? Moreover, could you please explain how a random blog named shattariyah.blogspot (which I can't even link because it's on WP:BLACKLIST, lol) is WP:RS? Moreover, could you please show where this sentence; "Membership in a particular Sufi order is not exclusive and cannot be likened to the ideological commitment to a political party." is supported by this source? [2]

If you can't do that, I will revert back to the original revision, and if you revert again after that, I will report you to WP:ANI. -- (talk) 14:54, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

User:HistoryofIran There is apolitical nature of Sufis mentioned in second source. 37.111.217.111 (talk) 14:58, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Sorry but that made no sense. Please cite what you're trying to say. And you didn't answer my other remarks either. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:59, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Okay I am amending the content per the source. 37.111.217.111 (talk) 15:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

No need to, you have already been reverted by another user. Kindly read WP:RS and WP:CITE before you make your next edit. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:03, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Warsi Tariqa fragment

"Warsi Tariqa"(ref) was added 12 June 2021 as part of a complete sentence. The portion of the sentence after the first ref was deleted on 11 Jan 2022 because the second ref cited a blog (the editor should have removed the complete sentence). The leftover fragment with its ref has persisted since and should be removed. Schazjmd (talk) 18:14, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Generalization?

Why is the description of the Murid promotion paragraph doesn't have any sources or citations and why is this description generalized to all Murids from all tariqahs? Is there any source to back up that this generalization is true for all tariqahs? Wherescitation (talk) 06:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)