Talk:Testudo (genus)

Requested move 4 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. No support was expressed, and I suppose "testudo" is at least ambiguous to the extent that it may not be clear whether it refers to tortoises (or turtles) in general or to the specific genus, if not also the formation. (non-admin closure) —BarrelProof (talk) 11:24, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

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• Testudo (turtle) → Testudo
• Testudo → Testudo (disambiguation)

– Clear primary topic. —BarrelProof (talk) 07:51, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose – assertion of primarytopic without evidence is a non-starter. Dicklyon (talk) 03:10, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment I think BarrelProof means to say it's the primary topic by long-term significance/educational value, rather than by usage. (FWIW, usage stats show 253 hits/day for Testudo formation which many writers just call "a testudo", 43/day for Testudo (turtle), 3/day for Testudo (mascot) (a redirect), and 1/day for Testudo (lyre); didn't include battering ram, lute, etc. There's 17 hits/day for the disambiguation page itself.) 210.6.254.106 (talk) 09:34, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
    • As the Testudo formation article says (and the dab page says too), "Testudo is the Latin word for 'tortoise'", from which the name of the formation is derived. The name of the article about the formation is "testudo formation", not "testudo (dab term)". The lute and chelys also get their "testudo" names from the tortoise (and the titles of those articles are "lute" and "chelys", not "testudo (dab term)"). The mascot of the University of Maryland is also a turtle. Since it's a word that means "tortoise", and essentially all of the meanings are derivatives of that one, I suggest that the primary meaning of the word is the tortoise meaning and therefore the article should redirect to the article about the tortoise. None of the other candidate articles have titles of the form "testudo (dab term)", so readership counts for those articles are not necessarily for "testudo" as a term by itself. An image search for "testudo" mostly results in pictures of turtles (along with some pictures of soldiers crowded into turtle-shaped formations). I'll admit, though, that I hadn't realized the formation was all that popular a topic, or that it was sometimes referred to simply as "the testudo". —BarrelProof (talk) 10:17, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 7 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved as no opposes and move would allow title to be inline with similar articles. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Music1201 ^talk 04:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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Testudo (turtle) → Testudo (genus) – There is still something bothering me about "Testudo (turtle)" as a title. It seems a bit like "Felis catus (cat)" or "Canis familiaris (dog)" or "Equus (horse)". Testudo is Latin for "turtle" or "tortoise". It is also the formal scientific name of one specific genus. All three of those meanings fit into the current disambiguator term "turtle". —BarrelProof (talk) 11:37, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

• Support. Plant articles called Example (plant) so why should animal articles? Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:45, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

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Divided into 3 subgenera

Testudo (Testudo) + Testudo (Agrionemys) + Testudo (Chersine). Per http://images.turtleconservancy.org/documents/2017/crm-7-checklist-atlas-v8-2017.pdf. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 13:26, 4 October 2019 (UTC)