Talk:The Dalton Academy Warblers

Music article or Television article?

This article is being pulled in two separate directions: it was set up as a music article, but it's talking about fictional characters from a television show, and the complications of this are already showing in recent edits.

There are the recorded Warblers. In the second season, these were with Criss and Colfer on lead vocals, and in all but one song, the Beelzebubs as background vocals (for that song, "Blackbird", it was the usual Glee studio singers doing backgrounds). In the third season, the Beelzebubs haven't been used at all; lead Warbler vocalists include Curt Mega and Grant Gustin (with Eddy Martin doing a couple of licks in "Uptown Girl"), and the studio singers on background (including a few Warbler actors from seasons two and three).

There are the on-screen Warblers, actors who lip-synch to the song. These vary from 12 to 16 in an episode, and while the majority are not credited as guest stars or co-stars by the show, there are several who have been, most of whom have at least one line of dialogue.

The infobox is where these two very different groups of people have come into conflict. The initial list was of the two leads plus the individual Beelzebubs: the album credits, minus the studio singers. It has recently been changed to the credited actors (Jon Hall called himself "Beatbox" on the official Behind the Scenes Warblers video, and he did get an on-screen credit in the concert movie).

The infobox is odd to me in that it gives Columbia as the Warblers' label. It really isn't. The album itself is credited to "Glee Cast" by Billboard and everyone else, as are the singles from it, even the one charting single from season three, "Uptown Girl". Now that Criss has moved to New Directions, it seems highly unlikely that there will be the material for another album, and "Uptown Girl" has appeared in the regular Glee Cast numbered album series.

This article, if it's to survive on its own—at the moment, there's little that isn't duplicative of Glee: The Music Presents the Warblers—would seem to need to be about the fictional group in the context of the show. The obvious question is whether the Warblers are notable enough in that context to warrant an article. While Blaine and Kurt are (and Sebastian is rapidly becoming so), most of the critical commentary I've read either talks about the songs or about Dalton Academy as an institution rather than the Warblers as a musical group. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:43, 12 February 2012 (UTC)