Talk:The Equalizer (film)

Plot

1. No mention of Alina's friend and her fate
2. No mention of McCall's personality and why he reads a lot of book
3. Not enough details for the Teddy
4. The section for the assassination of Pushkin is short and brief
5. Why you mentioned Mark Twain's quote in the end of plot when there isn't enough plot details about McCall, Alina, Teddy, and Ralphie characters?
6. McCall in the WP's plot looks like a kind robot instead of what he's on the movie (a person who decide to return to his past to help people to change their life, fate and destiny). --188.158.76.120 (talk) 12:07, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Genre

77Survivor, according to BFI and AllMovie, action, adventure, and thriller all overlap. Right now the article just says action-adventure, but I'd be open to changing that to action-adventure thriller. Thoughts? --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:15, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Well, the BFI link has a synopsis that classifies the film an "action/thriller."

I think that would be more appropriate to classify the film as, since adventure implies exotic settings which I don't see in this film. Valddlac (talk) 22:12, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

You have to remember that we're specifically talking about action-adventure, which is a mashup of genres. Action-adventures don't always incorporate exotic settings, and a lot of suspenseful stories with action, such as spy novels, fall into this category. They can be more about the character's personal journey and evolution, overcoming an onslaught of obstacles in pursuit of the higher good, which doesn't have to rely upon the geographical backdrop of distant lands. Also, characters can have an exotic past like we see with Robert McCall.

The other issue is that these sources specifically call out "adventure" as one of the genres, despite what's in BFI's synopsis. Anyone checking the references will clearly see that adventure has been left out; and that's a problem. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:52, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Also came across this source, which probably explains it better than I can. It states:

... action and adventure films are not restricted to any particular historical or geographic setting. Indeed, the basic elements of conflict, chase, and challenge can be inflected in any number of different directions ... all action and adventure films focus on some form of conflict. Alone or as part of a group, the heroes face some figure, force, or element that challenges them physically and mentally.

The source gives a lot of different examples, but one that caught my eye was Speed. It describes the main obstacle, "mechanical malfunctions", being of enormous size and strength, in which the hero must "demonstrate courage, initiative and physical endurance, ultimately triumphing over what are typically cast as impossible odds". That's what separates Speed and The Equalizer from your typical action film, and sure enough, BFI categorizes Speed as "Action and Adventure". --GoneIn60 (talk) 02:42, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Okay, but just so you know, AllMovie and Box Office Mojo also call the film as a crime thriller. Valddlac (talk) 11:15, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

For genre classification, WikiProject Film typically relies on the big three: AFI, BFI, and AllMovie. When they disagree, and they often do, we look for a cross-section of genre classification names supported by a majority of the 3 sites. Whatever genres that have the most support among the three would be fit for inclusion. We prefer primary, but sometimes we go with a sub-genre when multiple sites support it. --GoneIn60 (talk) 15:25, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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