Talk:The Giver (film)

16 year old Jonas?

Jonas in the book is 11/12/13 not 16 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.65.155.62 (talk) 05:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

In The Giver film, Jonas is a sixteen year old boy, not a twelve. This article is about the film, not about the book. See the official movie Facebook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.93.203.243 (talk) 14:49, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

There are many difference from the book that are in the film, so I think we should add a new section that talks about that. Giggett (talk) 05:01, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Sections on differences between the book and the film are generally frowned upon here at Wikipedia, because they are fertile ground for WP:TRIVIA and WP:OR. There are seldom enough solid reliable secondary sources discussing the material that can be used for the purpose. Elizium23 (talk) 05:38, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Besides, they are close enough. Purists have read the book and already know, and the rest of us see only the movie. Only purists note the book and movie differences.-- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 06:05, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Charles Edwin Shipp, I wouldn't state that "[o]nly purists note the book and movie differences." If I was interested in building a comprehensive Wikipedia article about a film, and there were sufficient WP:Reliable sources supporting differences between the book and the film, I would include that material. That stated, noting parts of a book and sourcing that with WP:Primary sources can be fine. Where some editors go wrong in such cases is drawing analysis when the sources don't support that analysis, which is WP:Synthesis (a form of WP:OR). I read the book The Giver back in school many years ago (many people read it in middle school or high school), and I barely remember it. So watching the film was very fresh for me. Flyer22 (talk) 06:21, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the wise comment. My wife, two daughters, their husbands, and our high school granddaughter are staying up to celebrate a Christmas break and watch the movie until midnight. The wives have read the book and I'll ask them in the morning if differences should be mentioned. Thanks, -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 06:29, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I liked the film. Anyway, have fun. Belated Merry Christmas. And Happy Holidays. Flyer22 (talk) 06:36, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Consensus this morning is the movie amplifies the book concept and brings added insights to those interested. Perhaps a section and brief paragraph could be added here (not a table). The new section could briefly mention a few differences from the book. What do you think? -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 21:03, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

The companion WP article, The_Giver has a lot of TALK discussion, and how it relates to this article. FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 21:04, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

"Elsewhere" vs. "Outside the Boundary of Memory"

Contrary to what the present article says, it seems the movie does not use "Elsewhere" to mean the physical territory outside the encircling Boundary of Memory. Rather, anyone considered unfit to live in the Communities (infants who are deemed too weak, social misfits, the unwanted elderly, etc.) are "Released to Elsewhere" -- a euphemism for being killed by lethal injection. Jonas is said to have gone "outside the Boundary of Memory", "gone over the edge", etc., but he is not said to have gone Elsewhere.— r.e.s. (talk) 22:40, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

In the book, Elsewhere is certainly intended to mean the physical territory outside the Community, with "release to Elsewhere" (in this meaning) then being used as a euphemism for killing or suicide. However, the book is not altogether clear whether Jonas in the end really does reach a Christmas-celebrating Elsewhere, or whether he reached "the other Elsewhere", an Afterlife, while in reality dying of cold.--2001:A61:260C:C01:5D1C:6405:F798:C797 (talk) 16:58, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

film vs. book

How closely does the film follow the book?-71.174.183.177 (talk) 21:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Plot confusion

"...he is told that he will become the next Receiver of Memory and will progressively receive memories from his predecessor, the Giver (Jeff Bridges). Upon assuming his role, Jonas learns of the past of the Giver and his child, Rosemary (Taylor Swift), who had preceded Jonas as Receiver of Memory."

So Jonas is to be the new Receiver of Memory. Whom is he replacing in that role? Would that be "his predecessor, the Giver"? Or would it be "Rosemary, who had preceded Jonas"? Some clarification is in order. 83.104.249.240 (talk) 21:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

I agree. How about this as a replacement for the existing sentence?

"...he is told that he will become the next Receiver of Memory and will progressively receive memories from his predecessor, the Giver (Jeff Bridges). Upon assuming his role, Jonas learns of the past of the Giver and his child, Rosemary (Taylor Swift), who had preceded Jonas as the Giver's apprentice."

A further change is probably needed in the following sentence, like this perhaps:

"She was so distraught from the memories that she committed suicide and failed to become the new Giver." Jim Bruce (talk) 12:10, 28 August 2018 (UTC)