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GA Review
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:The Hunger Games (film)/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: Kncny11 (talk · contribs) 19:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Alright, time to refresh myself on this film series! The last GAN was six years ago, so I'm going to assume that the issues there have been more than addressed and look at this film fresh. As always, a Working tag means that I haven't finished looking at that part of the article yet, but feel free to start making changes as soon as you see them! Kncny11 (shoot) 19:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Infobox and lede
edit- The release dates and gross numbers don't need citations in the lede as long as they appear in the body
- Thanks to films like Endgame coming out, ref [9] no longer shows that THG had the third-largest opening weekend gross at the time of its release. Fortunately, this NYT article says it.
- Shorten parentheticals to last name, as Lawrence and Hutcherson were already introduced
- Principal photography began in May 2011 and ended that September
- Move comma from after "March 21, 2012" to after "in some European countries"
- Japanese release is never mentioned in the body
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Plot
edit- This section is sitting at 709 words, just over the 400-700 range recommended by MOS:FILMPLOT. Find a few areas to trim.
- Pipe Panem to Fictional world of The Hunger Games.
- Comma after "Careers"
- "eleven" → "11" per MOS:NUMBERS
- "dead from eating what she assumed were edible berries from watching Peeta." → "poisoned to death by the nightlock she collected after watching Peeta." (or something of that sort, just to decrease the double "from")
- The last two paragraphs both begin with "Crane then", which visually looks repetitive.
Cast
edit- Not necessary to have citations for the cast list unless there's a character description attached
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- With the way that List of The Hunger Games characters has been restructured, only Katniss, Peeta, Gale, Haymitch, Prim, and Snow need to be linked.
- Period after "Mrs." in "Mrs. Everdeen"
Production
edit- Pipe distribution rights to film distribution
- Sentence structure in the first sentence is confusing atm, as it implies Color Force reportedly bought the rights for $200,000, but the Newsweek citation [27] says Lionsgate spent the money.
- Removed some citations earlier and I couldn't find one from Newsweek. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Pipe Alli Shearmur to Allison Shearmur
- [29] doesn't show anything about the budget being "one of the largest ever"
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- WL Billy Ray (screenwriter) the first time he's mentioned in the body
- Same with Gary Ross
Casting
edit- strike "coveted" in role, for neutrality
- "Lawrence, a fan of the books, took three days to accept the role, initially intimidated by the size of the production." → "Lawrence, a fan of the books, was originally intimidated by the size of the production, and took three days to accept the role."
- Commas around "other than Hutcherson"
- Write his full name out in its first appearance
- "who was later cast as Cato" needs a citation
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comma after "The following month"
- Need a reference for "Both got the role at the time they were promoting Captain America: The First Avenger"
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's also unclear who 'both' refers to, as three names are mentioned in the preceding sentence
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Filming
edit- List of possible directing candidates needs a citation (EW source doesn't mention them)
- Done Added a source. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- WL underwriting
- Commas around "as part of the underwriting process"
- "dyed her naturally blonde hair"
- Split sentence after "yoga", make separate sentence about her injury.
- Citation needed for that training injury
- The sentence about Hutcherson and Hemsworth dying their hair should be placed next to Lawrence dyeing hers, rather than in the middle of a paragraph about her training process
- Delink Hutcherson and Hemsworth, who were already mentioned above
- "digital due (in part) to the" → "digital, due in part to the"
- WL DuPont State Forest in the body as well as in the thumbnail
- "other scenes also took place and was filmed" → "other scenes were filmed"
- The Shelby/Charlotte/Asheville sentence needs a citation
- Done Added sources. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- "production team found" → "production team used", to reduce repetition of "found" and reduce implication that they somehow discovered the town
- "looked at
a lot ofphotographs"
- "the 1950s in the search of a very American feel." → "the 1950s, in search of an "American" feel."
- District should be capitalized
- Comma after "every character"
- "differentiate strongly" → "strongly differentiate"
- Missing period before [61]
Music
edit- Safe & Sound only needs to be linked once, when it appears in the first sentence
- Music video release date needs a citation.
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Citation [64] should only appear once, at the end of the sentence.
- The Daily Princetonian is a student paper and not the best source. Hollywood Reporter has the same information.
- WL the first instance of score to Film score
- WL leitmotif
- Drop the "important and signature" descriptors, which are non-neutral and do not appear in the cited sources
- "Arcade Fire's Panem national anthem" → "The resulting piece"
- "Strong reviews" is followed only by one review
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- WL Star Wars and Big Brother (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
- "a rather obscure" → "an obscure"
- Name the track as "Sediment"
- Question: Could you elaborate? Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Move the citation to the end of the paragraph
Critical reception
edit- "Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an "A" grade."
- Mention in first sentence of second paragraph that it was compared to Harry Potter and Twilight, as many of the reviews in this para talk about that
- Pipe Time to Time (magazine)
- Italics and quotes around The Charlotte Observer
Box office
edit- Put this above "critical reception"
- "US & Canada" → "United States and Canada"
- The Box Office Mojo stats don't suggest that it made the "largest worldwide opening weekend for a film not released during the summer or the holiday period", because the non-archived version has several films above that, and the archived version doesn't specify release dates.
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- For that matter, many of the records need to specify "at the time of its release" or "as of", as Black Panther (Feb. 2018), Beauty and the Beast (Mar. 2017), and BvS (Mar. 2016) have since overtaken that.
- Mysterious space in the third paragraph with "On its first weekend"
- Drop the "With regard to ticket sales", as the phrase is mentioned later in the sentence
- Comma after "On Fandango alone"
- Comma after "advance ticket seller ever"
- Comma after "according to Fandango"
Themes
edit- Pipe feminist to feminism
- "Manohla Dargis of The New York Times"
- WL Huffington Post
- comma after "published in the Star Tribune"
- comma before "while the stories contain no actual religion"
Battle Royale and other precedents
edit- Change first sentence to "Several critics compared The Hunger Games unfavourably to ...", and include specific quotes.
- "The Lottery" is mentioned in the second para but formally introduced in the third
- Comma after "by Shirley Jackson"
- WL The Atlantic
Controversies
edit- This section is a bit long and could probably be split into subsections on race/ethnicity, weight and body image, and violence
- Question: Got any ideas for the subsection titles and where they should go? Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Italicize Jezebel
- Comma after "for The New York Times"
- Commas around "in certain scenes"
- Comma after "Slate states that"
- "Anderson concludes that complaints"
Accolades
edit- This section is empty except for a {{main}} link
- Any particularly significant accolades should go here with a citation, even if there's a separate page (see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, a recent GA). Any award mentioned in the lede is probably a good choice to go here.
Home media
edit- "and Blu-ray Disc on August 18, 2012"
- "and in the rest of Europe on September 3, 2012" needs a citation
- Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Amazon isn't the best source, but the DVD extras are mentioned in this EW article
- Refs [172] and [173] (Three weeks after the release...) are both incomplete
- "With 10,336,637 units sold [by the end of the year?]..."
- Pipe 4K UHD to 4K resolution
- Done Linked to Ultra HD Blu-ray. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Italicize Hunter Games series
Sequels
edit- Four citations for Lawrence replacing Ross seems excessive
References
edit- [55] (Forbes) is missing the work in the citation
- Box Office Mojo is sometimes referred to as such, sometimes as Boxofficemojo.com
- Change the work on [44] from New York to Vulture
- Include "url-access=subscription" on [32] (LA Times), [50] (WSJ), [62] (WSJ), [127] (WSJ), [151] (WSJ)
- Include "url-access=limited" on [34] (NYT), [44] (Vulture), [47] (NYT), [54] (NYT), [118] (NYT), [130] (NYT), [136] (NYT), [138] (NYT), [141] (Atlantic), and [156] (NYT)
- Replace "Azdailysun.com" in [146] with Arizona Daily Sun and change it from publisher to work
- WL New York Daily News in [57] and remove the publisher
- In [84], change Tnr.com from publisher to work and make it The New Republic
- Something in [172] is broken
General comments
edit- Some scattered vandalism, but no edit warring and overall mostly stable.
- Photos are CC or free use and all relevant to the article.
- Earwig has been giving me grief in terms of its loading time, but it looks like the main offenders are mirror sites, and the iffy % matches are due to direct quotes.
Final comments and verdict
editSorry this took a few days to finish up! I had some personal stuff come up. Anyway, I'm going to put this article On hold. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions, or if anything comes up! Kncny11 (shoot) 17:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Kncny11: I have added comments for most of your suggestions. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Some Dude From North Carolina: In which I am super not on top of things -- for "Sediment", all I meant was that the Laurie Spiegel track is called "Sediment". As for the controversies section, I see three distinct categories as potential subheads: "Race and ethnicity", "Appearance (or casting) of Lawrence", and "Violence". Kncny11 (shoot) 21:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Kncny11: Both suggestions have now been addressed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Some Dude From North Carolina: Hell yeah! Passing now. :) Kncny11 (shoot) 21:08, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Kncny11: Both suggestions have now been addressed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Some Dude From North Carolina: In which I am super not on top of things -- for "Sediment", all I meant was that the Laurie Spiegel track is called "Sediment". As for the controversies section, I see three distinct categories as potential subheads: "Race and ethnicity", "Appearance (or casting) of Lawrence", and "Violence". Kncny11 (shoot) 21:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Kncny11: I have added comments for most of your suggestions. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
The Minotaur
editThe story of the Hunger Games is a direct reference to the Ancient Greek myth of the Minotaur. This fact has not been previously mentioned (apparently) in this article, but I have now made a footnote indicating it. Did I overstep my bounds? Is there a reason this was not mentioned before? (or is this just more American hubris, see above). A loose necktie (talk) 06:30, 18 April 2021 (UTC)