Talk:The In Sound from Way Out! (Beastie Boys album)

Release date wrong?

Music from this album was heavily used in the french movie "La Haine", which premiered in 1995. On Imdb, the mentioned year is 1994. How can it be released in 1996? LarryMGolden (talk) 13:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Same cover art?

As I can see, the cover art looks nothing like on the Perrey and Kingsley version, so why does it say it does? --BlooWilt on the wikiprowl, later! 15:30, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, my mistake, it's the concept. --BlooWilt on the wikiprowl, later! 03:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You are right in what you say that it is not the same, but the concept of the cover is similar to that of the Perrey and Kingsley album. And that is more certain with the title of the album, which is the same as the 1966 album made by the Perrey and Kingsley duo, however it is not the exact same cover. --186.20.237.222 (talk) 20:16, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Move?

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The result of the move request was: moved through summation of discussion of capitlas for In/Sound/Way/Out, no capitilisation of 'from' billinghurst sDrewth 04:40, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

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The In Sound From Way Out! (Beastie Boys album) → The in Sound from Way Out! (Beastie Boys album) —

• Caps —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
• Why are these caps wrong? "In" in this context is not a preposition, it is either an adjective or part of a compound noun. "The In Sound from Way Out!" is the properly styled capitalization, so both the current and proposed titles are incorrect. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
  • anyway, for this RM, please note my corrected title: "The In Sound from Way Out!" SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
• Move to The In Sound from Way Out! (Beastie Boys album) per Schmucky. "In" definitely needs to be capitalized (I'd parse it as an adjective). Deor (talk) 15:08, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support move, with both capital "In" and disambiguation, to The In Sound from Way Out! (Beastie Boys album) to distinguish from existing The In Sound from Way Out! (Perrey and Kingsley album), which the Beastie Boys title (as well as album cover) is clearly based on. --Closeapple (talk) 08:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
• Since it seems the page has already been moved, revert. "In" is clearly not a minor word in this sense, but the main adjective in the title. 81.110.111.164 (talk) 02:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Note, apology

Sorry I moved this article before noticing this post to talk. The dab was unnecessary in addition to improper caps. I also added a category to the redirect, making it so that I can't move it back. Again, sorry for the headache. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:45, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

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Requested move 10 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: Not moved Sceptre (talk) 20:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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The In Sound from Way Out! (Beastie Boys album) → The In Sound from Way Out! – WP:TWODABS, use a hatnote for The In Sound from Way Out! (Perrey and Kingsley album) ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:16, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom (pageviews). - Station1 (talk) 06:36, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:NOPRIMARY. Usage vs. long-term significance. Perrey and Kingsley shows long-term significance if 30 years after its release, another band paid tribute to it. A few years ago, Rolling Stone listed it amongst its 40 most groundbreaking albums of all-time.[1]. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 16:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
• Note: Target or "new" titles cannot have non-redirected content unless they are also to be renamed. Current community consensus supports that a TWODABS disambiguation page should not be deleted just because one of the two topics becomes primary. Instead, the {{One other topic}} template should be placed at the TOP of the disambiguation page if this request is granted. Please refer to the linked editing guideline for more detail. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 16:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per pageviews since both albums have long-term significance (the Beastie Boys album is still getting reliable source coverage). -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:44, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. Sharper {talk} 00:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose:

WP:PRIMARYTOPIC says:

• A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term.

How to measure this likelihood? Let's look at (1) incoming article links: 78 for Beastie Boys / 18 for Perrey and Kingsley = factor 4.3; and (2) page views in the last five years: 108,996 for Beastie Boys, 29,585 for Perrey and Kingsley = factor 3.7. I'd say a factor around 80/20 is not quite enough for "highly likely" and "much more likely".

WP:PRIMARYTOPIC also says:

• A topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term.

The fact that the Beastie Boys copied the title and the cover design of the Perrey and Kingsley album 30 years after its release proves the long-term significance and enduring notability and educational value of the latter. The Beastie Boys album has certainly had greater notability in the last 24 years, but not substantially greater.

Maybe the request to move this page is somewhat related to the sudden spike in page views after the digital release of the Beastie Boys Story? -- Chrisahn (talk) 23:09, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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