Talk:The King and the Mockingbird
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editThis article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Version with Peter Ustinov
editI recently found what appears to be the 1952 version on the Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/details/The_Curious_Adventures_of_Mr_Wonderbird).
Seeing that the voices include Peter Ustinov, I originally assumed this to be the "canonical" version, and am a bit surprised to see the article just discuss absence of English sub-titles.
Not previously being aware of this movie, I cannot judge whether the article should be modified relating to the Ustinov version, but I feel that I should point out the possibility.188.100.197.94 (talk) 06:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- Wow – thanks so much!
- Yes, the Ustinov version is certainly relevant, and it’s now mentioned on the page – thanks!
- —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 09:21, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Cultural references
editHi, I do not have any "sources" on that, but references to totalitarianism isn't limited to the King looking like Adolf Hitler when coming out of the water: if you look closely at the scenes in the ville basse, the way the city is portrayed (and painted), the architecture (the houses, the small villages, the plaza), the clothes worn by the people living there and the way destruction is represented, it heavily hints at Spain during the Spanish Civil war (1936-1939). Jacques Prévert frequently commented wars throughout his whole life, especially the Spanish Civil War and the Algerian War, and it is quite likely that the ville basse depiction was influenced by that war. --88.177.158.231 (talk) 15:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- Also, when the Bird and the Chimney Sweep are imprisoned, when the King says that "work... is liberty", the following scene where they are in an office and get "working permits" heavily hints at the Service du travail obligatoire (I still have the one of my grandfather, it's clearly referring to that). The Bird later says something like "Patience, this won't last forever" (french: "Patience, cela n'aura qu'un temps", literally "Patience, this will only have *one* time"), which is exactly the thoughts of people who were in the STO at that time.
- The next scenes then denounce propaganda, artists working (willingly or at gun point) for the regime. It should be noted that the initial work (on the movie) started as early as 1947-1948, which is less than a decade after the end of World War II. --88.177.158.231 (talk) 16:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Where did the dub on Amazon come from?
editThere's a version of this movie on Amazon Streaming Video that is in a new English dub, but I can't find any information about it either on the Wikipedia page or on the Internet Movie Database. Anyone know where to find the provenance of this new version, and who the cast is?
Merge discussion
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was to merge the content of The Curious Adventures of Mr. Wonderbird into this article and redirect the page here.--John Cline (talk) 07:39, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
The Curious Adventures of Mr. Wonderbird, created on February 23, 2018, appears to be a content fork of this article. It either needs to be redirected here, in which case there isn't much content to merge as it mostly duplicates content already in this article, or, if deemed better, the content in this article that relates to the fork needs to be merged into it. I am fine with either merge outcome but I am opposed to having the topic covered at both locations simultaneously. Please add your support in one of the three sections below which reflects the option you think is best. Thank you. John Cline (talk) 08:27, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Merge and redirect The Curious Adventures of Mr. Wonderbird to this article
edit- Merge and redirect per nom and the content of the two pages. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:47, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect. There's even a place for it in the target, just before The King and the Mockingbird#1952 English version (different casts in the two versions, so there is something to keep). Narky Blert (talk) 18:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect per nom, but make the intro of the article clearer about the various titles involved. It took me a while to figure it out, as I came from the 13th Venice International Film Festival mention of the film. Hoverfish Talk 18:55, 24 March 2018 (UTC)