Talk:The Last Kiss (1931 film)
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- ... that the actresses featured in the 1931 British Indian film The Last Kiss were brought from a brothel?
- ALT1: ... that the 14-year-old leading actress in the 1931 British Indian film The Last Kiss was brought from a brothel in Dhaka?
- Reviewed: Mojang Studios
Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 20:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC).
- Article is new enough (today), long enough (~2,000 chars), cited, neutral, and appears free of plagiarism. The hooks are short enough, interesting, and cited. Recommend ALT1, as the age makes that one more attention grabbing. QPQ present, no image to review. AGF because I do not have access to the full text of Bangladesh Cinema and National Identity: In Search of the Modern?, though I was able to see the text supporting the hooks. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:39, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Huh. The book seems to be loading for me. When you click on the URL then go to the above page. That page talks about the brothel. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Google would not load that page at all as a full page for me, but it showed me the relevant sections when I instead searched for the actress' names. Google books can be like that sometimes. Not an issue. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Huh. The book seems to be loading for me. When you click on the URL then go to the above page. That page talks about the brothel. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Article is new enough (today), long enough (~2,000 chars), cited, neutral, and appears free of plagiarism. The hooks are short enough, interesting, and cited. Recommend ALT1, as the age makes that one more attention grabbing. QPQ present, no image to review. AGF because I do not have access to the full text of Bangladesh Cinema and National Identity: In Search of the Modern?, though I was able to see the text supporting the hooks. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:39, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Bangladeshi?
editCharacterizing the 1931 film, in Wikipedia's voice, as Bangladeshi (Bangladesh didn't become a nation until 1971) is grating. Zakir Hossain Raju does argue that The Last Kiss could be regarded as the first full length feature produced in Bangladesh film history. As one of only a handful of academics writing about Bangladeshi cinema, his opinion carries significant weight, but it is far from the academic consensus. Even he writes:
When did Bangladesh cinema begin? Historians of Bangladesh cinema, who are mainly concerned with theatrical feature film production, are in consensus in answering the question. They locate the beginning of Bangladesh cinema with the making of The Face and the Mask in 1956, and call this the "first" film (read theatrical feature film) produced in (then) East Pakistan/East Bengal. (p. 66)
Examples above tally with many others who like to claim The Face and the Mask as the beginning of Bangladesh cinema. This claim is also well supported in most survey histories of Bangladesh cinema, including those authored by Kabir, Hayat, Mutsuddi, Quader and Zaki. (p. 72)
The Last Kiss was never identified as the beginning of Bangladesh film history. (p. 79)
It would be more neutral to:
- Write that The Last Kiss is a 1931 British Indian silent film, and that it was filmed in "the eastern part of the (then) Bengal province of British India" (Raju p. 66), or some similar formulation.
- Attribute inline the opinion that it's the first full-length feature film in Bangladesh film history, with an explanation that the scholarly consensus disagrees.
--Worldbruce (talk) 05:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Worldbruce, I have made the changes but Cinema of Bangladesh may need some edits. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 10:29, 25 June 2020 (UTC)