Talk:The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes

Latest comment: 14 years ago by PatGallacher in topic Vagueness?
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Date of film

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Can the setting of the film be tied to a specific date? You could argue that the reference to Kaiser Wilhelm II, or a railway line north of Inverness, indicate a later date than some are assuming? PatGallacher (talk) 02:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

The first railway line north of Inverness was built in 1862, see Far North Line.

Another anachronism is the Loch Ness Monster e.g. one character says "Surely you don't believe in that old legend?". In fact the Loch Ness Monster is not an old legend, it only emerged in the 1930s. Most Victorians would never have heard of it, they were more into sea monsters. PatGallacher (talk) 10:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

As the first Sherlock Holmes story published in Strand magazine was in 1891, and this magazine is mentioned in the film, I suggest that the setting is the 1890s not the 1880s. PatGallacher (talk) 16:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

It would have to be much later than that. Rogozhin tells Holmes that Madame Petrova's favorite tale of his exploits is "Big Dog from Baskerville"; The Hound of the Baskervilles was first serialised in The Strand in 1901-02. Victoria died in 1901, fixing the date at some point during that year, unless either her presence or the reference to HotB is an anachronism (the latter a possibility considering that Madame Petrova could not, therefore, have read HotB to its conclusion as it hadn't been published yet). And while Nessie was not widely known until the 1930s, local legends of a lake monster extend back to the Middle Ages. It was only in the 1930s that non-locals began talking to the press about purported sightings, and that the first purported photographs of a monster were taken. It is entirely possible that Victorians would at least have been aware of the myth, even if they were not terribly excited about it. 71.200.138.188 (talk) 15:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
There is a screenplay in PDF format floating around the web, based on the theatrical release with the addition of the frame story of Blakely as Watson's modern descendant reading through a sheaf of manuscripts from the tin box. That version of the screenplay (not identical to Wilder and Diamond's original full-length screenplay) states in the opening bracket of the frame story that the main plot (or plots) take place in 1887-88, which completely disagrees with the Hound reference, although Watson's reaction to the gravedigger's mention of the Monster does state that the action is taking place in the 19th Century. Not sure how legitimate the PDF is, but maybe W&D just got the publication date of Hound wrong. 12.233.146.130 (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Vagueness?

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I have reverted some recent edits by an anon user. Although some of them might be considered individually, on the whole they are going into some issues in more detail than is necessary for this article. We do not need to refer to it as a pre-WWI submarine, any fool can see that the film is set pre-WWI. It is not a sea monster, it is a lake monster. It is probably not helpful to establish exactly what point in the development of the Zeppelin is implied by Mycroft's brief comments, a complex issue, the point is that this is clearly later than the 1887-88 date when the film is set. And so on... PatGallacher (talk) 01:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)Reply