Talk:The Runaway (ballet)

DYK nomination

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 01:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that choreographer Kyle Abraham was commissioned to make the ballet The Runaway even though he used to perform poorly in ballet classes? Source: "Still, the gala invitation came as a shock, he said. Not only is he situated more squarely in the modern dance world, where he has swept up honors including a MacArthur fellowship and multiple commissions for Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater, but he also has a rocky personal history with ballet. 'I was in the lowest of the lowest ballet classes you could be in,' he said, recalling high school in his hometown, Pittsburgh, and his time at the dance conservatory of SUNY Purchase. 'I used to cry in ballet partnering class. I had no idea what I was doing.'" ([1])
  • ALT1:... that with The Runaway, Kyle Abraham became the first black choreographer to work with the New York City Ballet in over a decade? Source: "He is the first black artist in more than a decade to create a new work for the company, and just the seventh in its 70-year history." (same link)

• Reviewed: Crisis on Infinite Earths (Arrowverse)

Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 15:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC).

Interesting ballet, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. I'm not happy with the hooks because they say much more about the choreographer than about the piece. I'll approve ALT1 if you have no better idea. - Suggestions for the article: name the NYCB sooner, because otherwise you'd need to link to it under "the company", no? - I am curious why the interesting title is not explained. Is there a plot? If not, I think that should be mentioned. - In Premiere, I read more about after the premiere, and forgotten by then who West was. - Under Original cast, I'd write a full sentence, not just repeat the two words. - In the Music section, I'd repeat the composers. Sure, some readers will know them by the titles, but there are others. I'd also split Part I and Part II. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I rearranged the lead section, but I don't have time to work on the rest of article now, here's my proposal on what to do: the ballet is plotless but no source explicitly mentioned that, since it's quite normal for contemporary ballets, but I'll add more about the inspiration. There are no reliable source about the title but the choreographer explained it on Instagram when he responded to the Kanye West controversy. I'll move the original cast to the premiere sections, and add a few more facts. In the music section, I'm hesitant to include the composers because I can't find the composer/performer of one of the songs, and over half of them are by Kanye West, so I'll probably just add a line on top. I'll also add some ALTs here. Corachow (talk) 23:43, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Good plans, and take your time. You could say that most are West's, and mention what's known about others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

(After staring at a map for days) I finally have time to work on the article. Apparently there aren't much report about the inspiration, and I don't want to put critics' interpretation in the production section. I also can't find any source on the songs other than the New York City Ballet website, and still can't find the composer of one of the songs, so I might remove the list of songs. Corachow (talk) 19:25, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

All fine, please don't remove the list for me! I'll watch just in case you come up with a hook about the marriage of on pointe and hip-hop. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Per your suggestion, here's a hook about pointe shoes and hip-hop. ALT2: ... that the ballet The Runaway is performed in pointe shoes and partially inspired by hip-hop dance? Corachow (talk) 21:56, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

You like it short, don't you ;) - My version of that

ALT2a: ... that the ballet The Runaway is partially inspired by hip-hop dance but performed in pointe shoes?

Without hip-hop, it would be just normal, no?

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

That looks great! Thank you. Corachow (talk) 22:40, 7 November 2020 (UTC)