Talk:The Town Hall (New York City)

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Since the lists of performers and ensembles who have appeared and/or performed at The Town Hall are quite expansive (and will only grow, if anyone else ever contributes to this article), i was wondering if they should be split off into separate entries, as i have noticed with other articles that contain such lists. oedipus 18:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The catch function of this page would allow said performances to be cited as performing in this space (with proper source). I would say only to include the most notable performances, that being award winnings performances or in residence performances.Yaakov bressler (talk) 14:18, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

The list that GJR/oedipus mentioned above in 2006 was removed in February 2011. Such a stand-alone list would be big and illustrious, and it would take a great deal of work to source. It's much easier to take a tour, which is excellent, and look at the programs and playbills on the walls. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

"The" in title

This latest move is the silliest thing I've ever seen. Why is this one "The Town Hall" while every other Town Hall does quite nicely without that word? -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 23:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Because its the correct name of a proper noun for the hall, unlike the other entries. See the website. It's the same thing as including the "the" on the The New York Times. oknazevad (talk) 01:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

<squeeze>I suspect that by today's naming conventions of Wikipedia (WP:THE), the "The" for an organisation, as opposed to a publication, would not allow to be used. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Furthermore, NYC's "Town Hall" is a government building (or cluster of buildings) near the Brooklyn Bridge. The "the" differentiates. Yaakov bressler (talk) 14:20, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Except that NYC's seat of local government is called City Hall. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Marian Anderson performance, 1935

The claim that Marian Anderson made her New York debut at The Town Hall in December of 1930 is not true. Marian Anderson's New York debut took place at Carnegie Hall on December 30, 1928. By 1935, she had already given three full solo recitals at Carnegie Hall.Rhudson (talk) 11:44, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

References

Reference style

User:Epicgenius, thank you very much for the massive rewrite of this article. I'm sorry I messed up your carefully constructed {{harvnb}} citations. Embarassingly, I was not aware of the puctuation differences between {{harvnb}} and {{sfn}}. This brings me to my (minor) point: I think that grouping short references via <ref>{{harvnb|… (1)}}; {{harvnb|… (2)}}</ref> is suboptimal. It prevents identical short citations from being grouped automatically by the citation system. I suggest to replace those constructions with multiple {{sfn}}s. (I don't like {{sfnm}} because a) it too prevents identical citations from being grouped; b) the naming of its parameters is discombobulating.) Feel free to ignore my suggestion. My main point was to thank you and apologize. Cheers, Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:35, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

@Michael Bednarek, thanks for the praise and for bringing the issue up. No need to apologize, I think we both learned something (I didn't know {{sfnm}} existed until now). As for why they were bundled, it was a bit easier for me to arrange similar short-footnotes together per WP:CITEBUNDLE, as this solves two things. There aren't a high number of inline references at the end of a given sentence, like ^{[1][2][3][4][5]}. Additionally, the usages of the shortened footnotes themselves are not as high; for example, "National Park Service 2012, p. 5" on its own is currently cited 14 times (reaching the letter "o"), while normally it would be cited 25 times (reaching "y"). It's a minor point, and you can change it if you want, but these were just the reasons I tended to use combined shortened-footnotes rather than standalone notes. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:09, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Examples of non-talk programming

This needs examples of what the non-talk programming was. Only included are vague lists. I know in 30s and 40s there were many jazz concerts, including Eddie Condon's weekly ones and an all-star one with Armstrong. What were the others? What made it “the busiest place on Broadway"? Wis2fan (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

This needs examples of what the non-talk programming was.
There are plenty of events listed in the "Notable performances" and "Other notable events" sections. However, I do acknowledge these sections are not complete. These events are not listed in the main "History" section to avoid cluttering up that section and to keep that information within one place in the article.

It was also called the"busiest theater on Broadway", not the busiest place, but that was because Broadway theaters in general didn't operate year round, or even the majority of the year, like Town Hall did. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)