Talk:The Writers' Prize

Requested move 14 December 2016

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The result of the move request was: not moved. It would seem to be a bad idea to include the name of the sponsor in the name of the article, unless it were overwhelmingly referred to that way in sources. In this case, there is no consensus for a move. (non-admin closure) Bradv 05:54, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

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Folio Prize → Rathbones Folio Prize – the name change reflects the new name of the prize after it was recently announced that the prize has a new sponsor, Rathbones. This new name is reflected in news sources covering the prize, including this Bookseller article, http://www.thebookseller.com/news/investment-company-rathbones-sponsor-folio-prize-446516, and the prize's official website, http://www.thefolioprize.com/the-prize/ Scope78 (talk) 11:00, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Survey

• Support. Seems logical - would follow the convention of the Man Booker Prize, for example. — sparklism ^hey! 14:34, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
• Is the sponsorship indefinite, and will the new name meet the WP:COMMONNAME standard? I'm thinking of the case of (association) football stadia, where we typically ignore sponsor names in titles (e.g., City of Manchester Stadium (FA), Dean Court; though contrast with Emirates Stadium, King Power Stadium, etc.). --BDD (talk) 18:10, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. Less concise. The official name counts as very little. The Booker Prize seems mistitled; Two wrongs don't make a right. Andrewa (talk) 18:14, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Discussion

I have now RMd Booker Prize, see Talk:Man Booker Prize#Requested move 22 December 2016. Andrewa (talk) 18:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

In the cases of Emirates Stadium and King Power Stadium, raised by User:BDD above, if we leave out the sponsor we get a very ambiguous term, so the sponsor name is used as natural disambiguation. That's a very good point, not an unusual situation, and one that should be mentioned at wp:official names. Thank you! But in both these cases there are other available disambiguators. That doesn't make them less relevant, but I wonder whether there are other examples where no other common and natural disambiguator is available? Andrewa (talk) 19:13, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Booker Prize

The RM closed as move, removing the sponsor name there too. The close is currently at move review but looks likely to be endorsed. Andrewa (talk) 21:50, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Writers' Prize

I don't understand this naming. The prize continues to be largely a function of the Folio Academy. So they lost a sponsor, they resort back to "Folio Prize". Instead they choose a generic obviously placeholder name unrelated to Folio until they get a new sponsor, yet, continue to be managed by Folio. And whatever happened to The Literature Prize, another generic placeholder name. Very strange. -- GreenC 23:11, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Single table?

The author and title columns are sortable, but as the winners are split into three tables, this doesn't let anyone sort the whole list of winners. It's agreed that this is the same prize under different names, well summarised in the lead and explained in detail thereafter.

I suggest we should combine the three tables into one. Any thoughts? PamD 06:34, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, please. Literary awards are often changing names based on sponsorship. Keeping tables intact for sorting purposes is preferable. To indicate the name of the prize, and to keep sorting working properly, probably need to add a new column that contains the name of the prize. -- GreenC 18:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)