Talk:Theodora Kosara

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: move the page, per the discussion below. Since it was easier and safer to do so, I have retained the previous edit history at Cossara (cf. the German in the proposal), which will now redirect here. Dekimasuよ! 07:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

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Theodora Kosara of Bulgaria → Kosara – Per my recent changes in the article. The Prosopographie der mittelbyzantinischen Zeit is among the most comprehensive, reliable and and prestigious projects on medieval prosopography. For the record, here is what it says in German (the gist is included in the article): "B. Prokić, der erste Herausgeber der Handschrift U (Vindobonensis Hist Gr. 74) des Skylitzes, die die Zusätze des Michael von Devol enthält, korrigierte den Namen Θεοδωρίτου in Θεοδώρα und gab damit K., deren Name – in der lateinischen Form Cossara – sonst nur in der Chronik des Priesters von Diokleia erwähnt wird, einen christlichen Namen. Prokić hielt sie außerdem für eine Tochter des bulgarischen Zaren Samuel (# 26983)." --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 20:08, 29 November 2014 (UTC) Constantine ✍ 16:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Agree. José Luiz ^talk 17:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

• Comment Kosara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was previously, and for several years, an article in itself. In 2013, Theodora Kosara was described as the daughter of Kosara This remained this way until November 2014, when the article at "Kosara" became a redirect to this article instead. From a process point of view, shouldn't this have gone through WP:AFD? And isn't overwriting the edit history at the target tantamount to deletion? (ie. can you delete articles simply by turning them into redirects, and asking for a move request to overwrite it?) -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 06:14, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

• Hmmm, you have a point. Perhaps I should first have gone to AfD and then come here, but my first concern was correcting a long-standing mistake. Anyhow, the essence of the matter would not have changed: there was only one Kosara, and she was not Samuel's wife, so preserving the edit history of Kosara is IMO not of any particular interest. Talk:Kosara could be maintained in some form, perhaps merged with this talk page, just in order to have a record of the discussions. Other than that, yes, voters should note that this move request is tantamount to a deletion request for the original Kosara article. Constantine ✍ 09:05, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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