Talk:Tim Tam

Merge with Tim Tam slam

• Do not merge One is a biscuit... the other, a cultural icon! Garrie 23:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
• Do not merge If the Tim Tam Slam were performed in America its worthiness of a page would not be questioned. The continued rationalisation of non-american cultural articles is very sad. It's important in Australia, it should be kept. Darkcraft (talk) 15:26, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
• Merge The Tim Tam Slam page is currently really badly written - the version here is far more succinct and encyclopaedic. As it stands, there's a huge and un-necessary duplication going on. I don't think it's got anything to do with American-bias (I'm not even an American), it's just that all the pertinent information is already present on this page. Unless it can be expanded on with decent citations, I don't think it yet justifies its own page. Potkettle (talk) 14:12, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Arnotts Australia website domain

The site was changed from .com.au [1] to just .com ([2]) - Please make this noted in the external links and references —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.132.195 (talk) 14:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Picture Image:Tim_tam.jpg

This picture is not representative, as the colour balance is wrong. A real Tim Tam looks like light milk chocolate, and this image is almost black. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlastairIrvine (talk • contribs) 13:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I imagine it's a dark chocolate one. --McGeddon (talk) 17:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

That's not how a dark chocolate one looks. I think this is a penguin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.66.124 (talk) 11:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Tim Tams in Canada

Just bought a packet of Tim Tams in Safeways, Calgary, Alberta. Delicious, and very different from the British Penguin on which it is supposed to be based. The packet says "Made in Australia". The store was selling Original and Caramel. (Next week, I will try the Caramel.) I couldn't see how to incorporate this information into the article; perhaps somebody else can. HairyWombat (talk) 02:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Later. Added to article. HairyWombat (talk) 19:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect info about Cost Plus Tim Tams.

This bit is incorrect. They did not "suddenly drop all mention of Tim Tams" in "Spring 2010". I've been buying my Tim Tams from Cost Plus World Market since 2006 and they have NEVER had "Tim Tams" on the label. They have always appeared as they do in the link as "Arnott's Originals" etc. This is not a recent change that "suddenly happened in Spring 2010". For instance, you can see on this blog - http://wanderingchopsticks.blogspot.com/2007/08/tim-tams.html - about someone being mailed Tim Tams from Australia there's a picture of some Australian Tim Tams and the seventh comment talks about being able to get them from Cost Plus where they are labeled simply as "Arnott's Originals" (this is from 2007) - I know this isn't a suitable source for the encyclopaedia, but I think it's a backup for my argument that the lack of "Tim Tams" on the label is not a new development at Cost Plus.Mandurahmike (talk) 00:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Seconded, though I too can only offer anecdotal proof. I can't find where (or if) I'd blogged it, but it's been a few years since we started getting them at World Market (Wichita, KS) and they've always been Originals. On the other hand, I'm 99% certain I've seen "Smarties" (the chocolate kind) there, and on my last visit I noticed they sell them with a different name. So it could be that at one point they did have properly-labeled Tim Tams too. But not in our store. 99.151.36.212 (talk) 17:30, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

The information about Cost Plus only carrying caramel "Originals" is incorrect. They also sell the chocolate version. I just bought a couple packets at one this week. Azrael84 (talk) 22:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Ctrl+F this

This delicious biscuits are also popular among university students at the University of British Columbia, Simon Fraser University, and Trinity Western University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.80.181.242 (talk) 03:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Oreos

You can do it with oreos, provided they are either the fudge or white fudge covered ones. But the oreo wafer is very light and airy in comparison to the tim tam's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.33.12.15 (talk) 03:10, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales picture

User:WWGB has added a photo of Jimbo Wales to the Tim Tim Slam section of the article, with edit summaries explaining that there is "room for two" photos to illustrate this small section, and that using a picture of Wikipedia's co-founder "adds Wikipedia-related content".

I'm not aware of any policy that encourages Wikipedia-referencing illustrations (if anything, WP:SELFREF discourages it). But WP:PERTINENCE specifically advises against "multiple images with very similar content" and specifically encourages "a reasonable level of variety in the age, gender, and race of any people depicted": the two images suggested are almost identical, being middle-aged, balding white men enjoying a Tim Tam with a small cup of coffee. Which image better illustrates the concept of the Tim Tam Slam? --McGeddon (talk) 10:28, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

... noting that the first photo was added by said subject of that photo. Self-promotion, anyone? WWGB (talk) 11:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

If it's a good picture, it's not actively promoting anything and it wasn't put there in place of a better photo, I don't see a problem. Which of the two pictures do you think best illustrates the subject? --McGeddon (talk) 12:38, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

I think there is room for both photos in the article. Perhaps the Tim Tam-in-mouth better represents the technique, but a photo of Jimbo attempting a local challenge also adds a quirky edge to the article. It's not like this article is pulling in thousands of readers. It's just a fringe/backwater piece where two images create absolutely no harm or conflict. A classic case of WP:IAR. WWGB (talk) 11:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

If the Tim Tam Slam section were bigger, there would be room for two photos, but it's just six sentences. WP:LAYIM suggests that if a section's images are spilling into the next one, either the section should be expanded or the pictures reduced. You can argue that it might be better to have a "quirky" photo than an illustrative one, here, but there are two strong MOS reasons for not illustrating a short section with two similar images of white men eating biscuits. --McGeddon (talk) 11:28, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

All of which is just making a biscuit in a teacup into a storm in a teacup. WWGB (talk) 11:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

If you think the photo is important enough to add to the article, but not important enough to discuss, I'll wait for a third opinion. --McGeddon (talk) 14:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request:

I agree that the picture of our beloved Jimbo should not be included. Though this issue may seem trivial, the reason why the image shouldn't be put here is pretty straightforward. Adding Jimbo's picture falls under WP:SELFREF and in any other case, I would not agree with any unrelated notable individual's picture here just to illustrate this practice. The section being short with two images being crammed together only makes it worse. An image of a non-notable person is always preferred and the original one of non-notable "middle-aged, balding white man" demonstrating the technique is much better. So I hope I've been of help here so that everyone can now move on and focus on more important work to do. - Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:37, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Tim Tam/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Apparently accurate article, however I have my doubts about the numbers provided. 30 million packs of tim tams should equate, at 11 biscuits per packet (there's your Trivial Pursuit answer), to OVER 300 million biscuits. Unless of course you include the Twin-packs in the statistic. - YK.

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Pricing

From the article: "When Coles refused the cost increase, Arnott's refused to supply the chain for two weeks."

So what? What happened after that? TooManyFingers (talk) 15:08, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Production

According to the article, "largely within Australia".

OK ... where outside of Australia are they also made? TooManyFingers (talk) 15:14, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Dutch "counterpart"

As of 2021, a counterpart is sold in the Netherlands in Jumbo supermarkets under the name "Dip&Nip Cookies".

Are these actually tim tams or just some other biscuit in the same style? I can't read Dutch but as far as I can tell, the source doesn't seem to state any relation. https://www.jumbo.com/jumbo-dipnip-cookies-melkchocolade-11-stuks-200g/386709DS/

If not it's kind of irrelevant.

86.184.42.181 (talk) 12:16, 17 March 2022 (UTC)