Editing request for trap, skeet and sporting clay articles

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The trap, skeet and sporting clays articles refer to each other near the beginnning, saying they are similar but different.

There is a lot of text explanation of each, but no clear explanation of what the differences are between them. Two have (unclear) explanations of their differences, but seem to contradict each other.

Can someone please write one-sentence explanations of each of these, which also makes clear their differences, and place all three explanations at the beginning of all three articles?

I am willing to do peer review on the explanations to make sure they are unambiguous to someone not familiar with the subjects.

Andrew8 23:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Reply


In standard Trap, there are 5 positions for shooters. RPellessier 18:40, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

am the author of the latest revision to this page. I am tempted to make some more extensive changes. Some of the stuff does not seem to be of general interest. For example, should an encyclopedia article really get into discussing the brands of shotguns and shells? The section on Olympic trap seems to be POV in advocating Olympic over American trap. Do all shooters really receive the EXACT same targets? I don't think so as long as the game is played outdoors.Harold14370 13:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

very very helpful as to my book report. Very informative and helpful and all asspects of trapping. nice job and very well presented. -Andrew

I agree, that the mention of brand names of guns and ammo seems a bit, well, crass, and does not belong in the wiki. Iglam 20:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps just the model numbers like the wiki articles on military hardware? And this if they click on the link the can learn about the manufactuer of the particular item there.

Olympic Trap section

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The "Olympic Trap" section of this article doesn't really seem to comply with WP:SUMMARY, being longer than the text in the main Olympic Trap article. Shouldn't most of what's in the section be merged into that article? -- Jao 07:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Nordic trap

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I think this section needs to be elaborated on. To say that one type of trap is "easier" than another sounds too subjective for me, not to mention that there is no description of what is involved in it. 76.169.36.21 (talk) 21:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC) Buzwad (talk) 21:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Editing request for trap shooting

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Nowhere in the article is it explained how the apparatus that releases the trap operates, or what it looks like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Royalaxation (talkcontribs) 01:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

I'll put a bit in there on that. North8000 (talk) 01:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Dubious

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I just tagged as "dubious" the claim that:

Fake birds were introduced around the time of the American Civil War as the Passenger Pigeon was nearing extinction and sufficient numbers were not reliably available.

This claim seriously contradicts the Passenger Pigeon article, which says that passenger pigeons were still abundant in vast numbers at the end of the US Civil War (1865), but then the population collapsed suddenly between 1870 and 1890. I also requested a cite for the claim that:

Clay targets were introduced in the 1880s.

because other sources state that live pigeons were still used in the 1920s; however, perhaps both were used together for a long time? I don't know, but a proper cite should clarify. -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 11:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Champion shooters

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Have there really been no notable trap shooters born outside of the USA? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.60.245.242 (talk) 07:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Description of trap shooting

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It seems like this article lacks a clear description of what exactly trap shooting is. If I had never heard of the sport, I would come away with only a vague idea. At the very least, I think the introduction should contain a short, concise paragraph describing the activity, and how it differs from the other types of clay pigeon shooting. A good place for this would be after the first paragraph, which ends with "Within each discipline, there are variations." also, I think an illustration, picture, or diagram somewhere on the page would be very helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellenwright (talkcontribs) 23:27, 26 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Good point. North8000 (talk) 14:08, 11 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
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While there is a lot of overlap between a section of this article and this site, without clear-cut dates to confirm which came first, there is evidence that the Wikipedia article created first. See MRG discussion for more details.

While the evidence is short of definitive, and the conclusion should be reversed if other, solid evidence is uncovered, on balance it seems likely that the material was added here first, so I have added the Backwardscopy template.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

What is the name for the person who launches the pigeon?

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Doesn't the person who launches the clay pigeon have a title? I would suspect it's something like "track puller," but I don't see it anywhere in the article. If it isn't there, shouldn't it be in there somewhere? __209.179.21.14 (talk) 22:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Trap puller, especially when they are doing only that. Less so when they are doing two jobs at once.....e.g. that and keeping score. North8000 (talk) 18:42, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
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