Talk:Tropicana Field

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I think it might be a good idea to remove the BaseballParks.com reference. This website, while entertaining is just one guy's ranking of parks he likes or doesn't like. It's fun reading but not encyclopedic at all.--Liquidvelvet 17:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Dome Roof Slope

Does anyone know anything about the reasoning in having the dome slope downward toward the outfield, rather that orient it so that the outfield roof is higher? This seems to me to be an extremely puzzling choice, so if info on why it was done is available I think it'd be a great add for that section. Sc00baSteve (talk) 06:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

From what I read in the past, the reason for the slope is to lower the amount of space that needs to be cooled. While it seems counter-intuitive to put the lower part of the dome in the outfield, it seems to be two-fold:

1.) To allow more seating behind home plate where the majority of people want to sit, and

2.) The builders brought in a baseball slugger (I don't know who off the top of my head, however) to see if the catwalks or roof would ever interfere. They determined, based upon where he was hitting them, they said there'd never be a problem. Obviously, they didn't bring in the right "slugger"

The reason I don't put all this in the article is I'd have to cite my claims, which I'd have to do more research of that. But, that should hopefully answer your question. EaglesFanInTampa 18:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

The roof is higher by home plate because of pop ups. Balls are not going to go nearly as high in the outfield as they are behind home plate and in the infield.

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Ice hockey

Does anybody know whether there is still the possibility to play hockey at Tropicana Field? Or has the ice rink been discarded after the Lightening moved to Ice Palace? --84.168.202.207 (talk) 09:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it. The Field Turf is a permanent installation. It can't be rolled up like AstroTurf can. When they have boat shows or other events at Tropicana Field, They are held with the Field Turf in place.

proposed new stadium

Some users keep changing succession boxes (both here and on the main Tampa Bay Rays article) to indicate that the proposed waterfront ballpark is definitely the next home for the team. While that would be great (imo), it's far from a done deal and should not be treated as such until the referendum (which is not a done deal, either) passes... or doesn't.

See "wikipedia is not a crystal ball" for more explanation. Zeng8r (talk) 18:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

dirt warning track

As far as I know (and I have been going to games since 1998), Tropicana Field never had a dirt warning track. It has always been a dirt color Field Turf or AstroTurf warning track.

Critical Health Violations

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=100725/stadiumconcessions& 173.75.234.3 (talk) 00:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Professional football season?

The article currently says:

It is the only stadium in history to host full seasons of professional baseball, football, hockey and arena football, as well as college basketball and college football contests.

This is cited to Topics: Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg.

However, first of all, I can't find where the source says that. And second, I don't see when the Trop ever hosted a full season of regular (non-arena) football. The Trop was one of the home stadiums for the 2009 Florida Tuskers season, but the team played 2 of its 3 home games at the Citrus Bowl. For a team to play a "full season" somewhere, I would think it would have to play a majority of its games at that location. And I don't see any other non-arena football teams listed as using the Trop as their home field. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:20, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

That one UFL game is the only pro football game I can think of off the top of my head that has ever hosted at the Trop. Tampabay721 (talk) 05:26, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Former names

In WP:BEGIN it says: "Try to not overload the first sentence by describing everything notable about the subject. Instead use the first sentence to introduce the topic, and then spread the relevant information out over the entire lead." This includes the former names of the stadium. They don't have to all be included in the opening sentence, especially in this case where both previous names have been out of regular use for close to 20 years. Parenthesis should only be used for things like established abbreviations ("Major League Baseball (MLB)") and if there is a translation to another language, such as the article on Olympic Stadium (Montreal) where the French name is included. --JonRidinger (talk) 19:07, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Bullpens as criticism?

I realize there is ample public effort to criticize the Trop, but is including in-play bullpens fair? For example, other ballparks - Wrigley Field, Oakland Alameda Coliseum, and AT&T Park - have bullpens along the foul line and in play, but there is no outright criticism of that on their respective Wikis. It's been done in baseball for decades; why single out Tropicana Field? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.166.175 (talk) 07:03, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Hurricane Harvey

Tropicana Field is set to host a series between the Texas Rangers and the Houston Astros from August 29 to September 1, 2017, after the latter team's home city was devastated by Hurricane Harvey. J4lambert (talk) 13:17, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

just what exactly were you trying to communicate here? best wishes The brave celery (talk) 22:51, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Concert section

The concerts table continues to grow. This is not good, imo. A table gives a list a suggestion of authority and completeness, but the current list is far from complete. I have personally attended two concerts at the Trop which are not listed, and if you count the post-game summer concert series shows that the Rays offer every season, there are at least a couple dozen missing shows. It's a very difficult task to research every concert that's ever been held at the Trop along with enough details to make the table complete. And if we could compile a complete list, the Tampa would be far, FAR too large for this article, stretching WP:UNDUE to the limit. It's much better to keep the "concerts" section in paragraph form and say something like "Major concert performers have included..." and list the most notable ones, like it's done at Tampa Stadium. Otherwise, it'll be a never-ending process trying to keep a table updated that isn't particularly important anyway. Several months ago, I mentioned these concerns at the user page of Megacheez, the editor who created the concert table here along with others at Tampa Stadium, Raymond James Stadium, and many other venue articles. He deleted the Tampa Stadium table, but no others that I can see. Unless someone comes up with a reason why I shouldn't, I'm going to delete the table soon and replace it with more sensible and open-ended wording as described above. --Zeng8r (talk) 02:49, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, the deed is done, although the section could use more sources, especially for the pre-Rays concerts. That was one of the many problems with the table; it's almost impossible to source all those details for concerts held 20+ years ago. Zeng8r (talk) 18:41, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Consolidating proposed ballpark proposals

Please join the discussion here: Talk:Tampa_Bay_Rays#Consolidating_proposed_ballpark_proposals

Multipurpose stadium

There are contradictions on Wikipedia regarding whether Tropicana Field is a multipurpose stadium. Multi-purpose stadium, List of current Major League Baseball stadiums, and Baseball park currently define this stadium as not being multipurpose. (The justification being that it was built specifically for baseball, and does not feature moveable seating sections.) Now, these article all lack citations and seem to have original research. After a couple of reverts, I have tagged the word multipurpose on this article as . Are there any good sources we can use to clarify this? I've also started a thread at Talk:List of current Major League Baseball stadiums. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 22:32, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Not sure if this comment was posted long ago by the same IP user who more recently removed the word "multipurpose" in the lede, but here's a delayed reply. The Trop was designed to be multipurpose from the beginning, as St. Pete did not have a baseball franchise when it was built and they didn't want it to sit empty for years until they got one. This is why the first tenants were the Tampa Bay Lightning (NHL) and the Tampa Bay Storm (Arena football). The statement is not "original research" - one can simply look at the list of tenants to conclude that it's always been a "multipurpose" facility.

But beyond that, I quickly found MANY instances of folks referring to the Trop as multipurpose, with the most relevant being an article from USA Today in which an architect with Populous (formerly known as HOK) says that it was always supposed to be a "multipurpose" facility and a renovation proposal in which Populous officially makes the same claim, as one can see here. The "history" section of the Rays' official guide to Tropicana Field doesn't specifically use the m-word, but it includes an entire section highlighting the Trop's "versatility", as you can see here. Zeng8r (talk) 12:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

"Though originally built for baseball" on https://www.mlb.com/rays/ballpark/information/tropicana-field-history 2603:8000:8E00:D700:C5F2:449C:2EFF:3C3A (talk) 00:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

"Tropicana Field was designed as a multipurpose facility well over 30 years ago" and - the firm who designed it. Zeng8r (talk) 13:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Only Dome?

This article incorrectly says that Tropicana Field is the only retractable dome stadium in major-league baseball. The Rogers Centre in Toronto is also a retractable dome stadium. This should be corrected. 24.224.217.38 (talk) 22:00, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

The article text says that it's the only non-retractable dome in MLB, which is true. There are several retractable domes. Zeng8r (talk) 22:11, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Newly proposed stadium

Draft:Gas Plant Stadium is in the works; should this be approved or redirect to a section on Tropicana until groundbreaking is done? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:44, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Asking WT:STADIUMS and WT:BASEBALL for input. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:50, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

The Stadium is not approved or built yet so doesn't need it's own article.... also there seem to be a bunch of articles for unbuilt rays stadiums such as Ybor Stadium and Rays Ballpark.. these three proposals should all be combined into whatever stadium actually gets approved.. with much less detail on the unapproved concepts. Spanneraol (talk) 21:21, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

I would say most definite a redirect. I am not sure anyone is going to call it the Gas Plant Stadium though. Adog (Talk・Cont) 21:22, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't even think there needs to be a redirect at this point. The Rays owner has held several of these PR announcements over the last few years and until there's real reporting about the details this should be taken with a grain of salt.[1] The Ybor Stadium and Rays Ballpark articles should be deleted and folded into the Trop article about replacement parks for the Rays. If they new park is approved by local leaders a new article called "New Rays Baseball Stadium" could be created until it's given a proper name. Nemov (talk) 23:01, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

I think a "New Rays ballpark" article detailing the history, including the previous failed proposals, is better than shoehorning it into the article on the Trop, as it's outside the scope of that article (beyond the typical summary paragraph and see also link). I definitely don't think we need two separate articles on past proposals, and have said exactly that in previous discussions. Those should have been merged a long time ago. oknazevad (talk) 08:44, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

I also support merging the two stadium proposal articles, and add the content on the new proposal there. The draft can be kept indefinitely and updated, and moved to a permanent title in mainspace if/when it's approved and construction begins. BilCat (talk) 01:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Roof destroyed by hurricane Milton

The roof has been torn off by hurricane Milton about 15 minutes ago. Video by Dave Moore, NFL commentator: [2] Renerpho (talk) 03:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

“Only all year indoor venue in MLB”

That’s not correct. The Roger’s centre is an all year indoor venue. 70.53.88.70 (talk) 16:05, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@70.53.88.70 Roger's Center can open up Evrstz (talk) 14:55, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

"FORMERLY domed stadium"

The roof is gone. So this is no longer a domed stadium. Discuss. Evrstz (talk) 14:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Source? GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:13, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

It's damaged not "gone". Spanneraol (talk) 16:26, 16 October 2024 (UTC)