Talk:Turnpike Lane, Haringey

Residents

The list of residents referes to people from throught the borough rather than just turnpike lane itself. I should thus be removed or edited. Jt spratt 21:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Location of Turnpike Lane

Every now and again, an anon user (probably the same one as the IP addresses are similar) edits the article to say that Turnpike Lane is on Wood Green. Actually it's in Hornsey and not Wood Green. It's close to Wood Green but not in Wood Green.

Encyclopaedic articles are about fact not opinion. There is plenty of map evidence to show Turnpike Lane is in Hornsey.

DrFrench 23:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Acknowledge your reversion to TP being in Hornsey - that's the problem with areas of London; everyone has a different take. I won't touch it again. You may (OR MAY NOT) be interested in some 1920s footage I found that purports to be of Turnpike Lane. I'm not convinced; I think at least some of it is Green Lanes, Harringay. There's one reel which I'm pretty sure is the old Electric Coliseum Cinema. To the best of my knowledge, TP never had a cinema. Let me know if you're interested.hjuk 22:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Picking up on this old chestnut. TP Lane was in the old borough of Hornsey. (So were Crouch End and Highgate). But that's long gone. People use the old borough logic to argue that Harringay is actually Tottenham or that Harringay is Hornsey. It ain't and never really was. The Post Office persist in calling anything with N8 Hornsey, but so what, they're working on outdated info. If I'm missing some evidence, I'm sorry, please do share. But for me what matters with London areas is not what the Elctoral Commission or the Post Office says, but what's commonly held by the people who live there and thereabouts (estate agents excluded).

Today Hornsey is really confined to the area to the west of the railway line. TP Lane doesn't feel like Hornsey, either. One end of it however is adjacent to Wood Green and it feels like Wood Green and to the best of my knowledge, if people think of it as anything but Turnpike Lane, they think Wood Green. Defining areas in London is not straightforward. I'd say perhaps "a street running between Wood Green and Hornsey". What do you think of that as a compromise? hjuk (talk) 13:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Ducketts Common

I'd like to delete : The grand Edwardian tree lined square outside the station is known as Ducketts Common. While it may well be true that the common has been enclosed since Edwardian times and has a park/square like atmosphere. It is certainly much older than that and is probably the last piece of "virgin" unbuilt land in the area. According to the Dorset plan of 1619, Ducketts reached across Tottenham as far as Broadwaters (Broadwater Farm). Your views?--IsarSteve 04:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd say it's somewhat grandiose to call it grand. Most of the area was built for the lower middle classes - bank clerks and the like. The houses lining Ducketts were for the more prosperous amongst that group - and for my money they look like it.

Ducketts Manor was a very large estate with a manor house to the northeast of the "square". What is left now was one of a series of strips of common land where people had the right to graze their animals; there was also Beans Green in Harringay - a strip of land to the West of Green Lanes opp St Anns Road (then called Hangar Lane). This was subsequently subsumed into the Harringay Park Estate.

For my money, I'd go for something like "At the Eastern End of the road, the southern side is bordered by Duckett's Common, once an area of common land where people had the right to graze their animals; now a small park with comfortable Victorian houses on two sides". I'll leave it to you. hjuk 10:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)