Talk:Twiztid

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Xanarki in topic Mostasteless date

Reads like an advertisement

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If a release from the future (2017) is already mentioned, this is clearly not an encyclopedic article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.253.186.62 (talk) 07:14, 22 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Horrorcore

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That genre really is sourced! It's written right there in the "style and influences" section with a source written in black and white: "Twiztid's performance style is often described as horrorcore."[1]

  1. ^ "Rappers Twiztid bring 'horrorcore' to Cotillion, in concert". The Wichita Eagle. September 30, 2005. Retrieved 28 February 2009. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Of course I wouldn't add something that's not sourced, right? (Though i might've added some unsourced stuff a long time ago but had since matured.) No offense but either you're blind or you really despise my editing. And who needs a whole group of people (consenus) to discuss adding one small genre to the infobox with a clearly reliable source? Seriously, what's the deal here????SirZPthundergod9001 (talk) 02:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Mirror Mirror in Discography

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I've added Mirror Mirror under Discography, despite being an EP, it is considered an actual album. The other EPs such as 4 tha Fam, Toxic Terror, End of Days, Get Twiztid, and Psychomania were mainly promotional/limited EPs, unlike Mirror Mirror. My points are:

#1: It charted on Billboard 200 and Billboard Independent Albums, something a promotional/limited EP would not do. source, Billboard charts showing the numbers

#2: It was supported by an actual national tour. Promotional/limited EPs wouldn't normally have a tour for them; thus, Mirror Mirror is important enough to warrant a tour. source, t-shirt with the tour dates to prove it happened

#3: Starting in the late 2010s, Twiztid started to perform their albums in their entirety at select shows. First, they did their 1st album Mostasteless in Rhode Island. Then, they did their 2nd album Freek Show in Pennsylvania. Then, they did their 3rd album Mirror Mirror in Utah; thus, Mirror Mirror is just as important as the other albums since they decided to perform it front-to-back like the others. source, news posting about the show

#4: When Mirror Mirror first came out in 2002, it was marketed as the next actual album from Twiztid, and not just a limited/promo item like most EPs. source, archived news posts about the album

#5: A New Nightmare is already listed under Discography, and yet, that's an EP as well (but Wikipedia has it as a mixtape, despite Twiztid calling it an EP after the fact, but that's another argument for another time).

Usually, EPs/compilations/non-full length albums aren't listed; however, that is slowly changing across Wikipedia, if a release is equally important. You can find examples of this on pages for Nine Inch Nails, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Seaweed, Guns N' Roses, and more. Xanarki (talk) 22:15, 4 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Mostasteless date

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Someone kept changing the date of Mostasteless from 1997 to 1998. I thought it was BS at first but then I dug deeper. Indeed, the November 27th 1997 date is wrong. It seems like it was the original pressing date but then it got delayed many times, and it's possible that a site like AllMusic or Amazon posted the wrong date. Since Wikipedia has had the date as November 27th 1997 for many years, other sites on Google latched onto it. Here's the sources showing that it was instead released in the summer of 1998:

#1: Three original flyers from 1998 promoting the release for August 4th 1998. [1]

#2: Liner notes from 2000's Cryptic Collection. The songs "Meat Cleaver", "Renditions of Reality", and "Somebody's Dissin' U" all appeared on the original Mostasteless initially, and the liner notes here says all three songs were recorded in February 1998; thus, November 27th 1997 as the original date for Mostasteless would've been impossible. [2]

#3: Liner notes from 2001's Cryptic Collection 2. The songs "Murder, Murder, Murder", "Smoke Break", "She Ain't Afraid", and "Anotha Smoke Break" all appeared on the original Mostasteless initially. The liner notes here says that "Smoke Break" and "Anotha Smoke Break" was recorded in March 1998, and "She Ain't Afraid" was recorded in April 1998; thus, yet again November 27th 1997 as the original date would've been impossible. [3]

#4: On the archived website for Insane Clown Posse dated June 1998, the website mentions the debut of Twiztid's upcoming album, and makes no mention of it being released prior to the posting. Note, I saw it a few days ago but as of this writing, I kept getting an "internal server error", so it looks like a glitch on the Internet Archive's website, but maybe by time sometime reads this it will be up again. [4]

#5: An old but still online fan website that cataloged Twiztid's releases. The creator makes mention of Mostasteless originally being released on August 2nd 1998, and makes no mention of a 1997 date. [5]

I've added two sources to the article and will edit the actual album page in a moment. Xanarki (talk) 17:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply