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On 8 August 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Udûn to Udûn (The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power). The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 8 August 2024

Latest comment: 2 months ago12 comments10 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Cremastra (talk) 20:05, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Udûn → Udûn (The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power) – There were some undiscussed moves that led to the television episode ending up at this title and there are some who feel that this title should go to Udun or even Udûn, Mordor. This move was suggested again at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle-earth#The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power episodes based on consistency with the other episode articles for this series. I was hesitant as I felt that was not a good reason and there was no technical need for the added disambiguation, but I have come to see the value here. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 19:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose - This is the primary topic for the term, as the geographical features only receive passing mention in the subsections they redirect to. Adding unecessary parenthetical disambiguation just for consistency with other titles is not consistent with the WP:AT policy.--Trystan (talk) 15:12, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose. Adding extra stuff to the title just for consistency seems pointless. Waqar💬 17:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

-Oppose No disambiguating needed , not enough people searching for Udûn area AlexBobCharles (talk) 18:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support. Not for consistency but because the geographical features (after one of which this episode is named) are just as notable. Move Udun to Udûn, the correct title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Relisting comment: There is currently no consensus at this point. Relisting for further input. Reading Beans 19:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Note: WikiProject Television/Episode coverage task force, WikiProject Middle-earth, WikiProject United States, WikiProject Television/American television task force, New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board, and WikiProject Television have been notified of this discussion. Reading Beans 19:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support. It seems ludicrous to suggest that episode S01E06, of a TV spin-off, of a big-screen adaptation, of a seventy-year-old epic fantasy novel with over 150 million copies sold, is the 'primary topic'. TV episodes are named in the context of the series they are part of; encyclopedia articles are named in the far vaster context of all human knowledge, experience and creativity. I presume that the episode is named after one or other of the Udûns listed in Udûn (disambiguation), unless the writers claim the name is an original invention? The article provides no information about the relevance of the title. -- Verbarson ^talk_edits 21:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support I'm inclined to agree with Verbarson's reasoning here.★Trekker (talk) 12:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would expect the location to be the primary topic? --Spekkios (talk) 06:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support Per Verbarson. AlexBobCharles (talk) 06:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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