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Article Clean-Up

There is a significant need for clean up and fact-checking for this article. Especially about the 2011 World Cup semifinal...the US never got past the semifinals before in a World Cup? Tell that to the 1999 World Cup winners... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.205.30.34 (talk) 19:48, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Team Kits

According to the US Soccer website the white kits are home and the gold kits are away. It's reversed in the article. Please fix this. -manutdglory —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manutdglory (talk • contribs) 19:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

it's been done. Rhodesisland (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

U-20 / blue uniform

Today in the U-20 World Cup the US, playing as the visitor versus Republic of Korea, wore blue shirts and blue shorts. I know Nike keeps changing up the shirt colors to sell product, but does anyone know if this indicates an intent to change back to blue for the away unis? - Regards, PhilipR (talk) 01:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Record for Greg Ryan

He lost one game...To Brazil. In world football a penalty shootout loss or victory is recorded as a draw. The match is "drawn" and a shootout is used to determine the winner. Yet the result of the game....is still a draw. Furthermore, there are infinite sources which show that Ryan lost one game to Brazil, and not a single one that says he lost two. Ergo, saying he lost two and then using your own reasoning is original research, and is not allowed. Batman2005 22:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

"Clubs"

Under the listing of current players, the "clubs" section doesn't list current clubs, but rather former colleges. This differs from the standard of other national teams. I understand that most of these players don't play for any professional club. In that case this section should be blank, but it's misleading to call your alma mater your current club. Maybe the list should just be reformatted to list each player's college and leave the club out. --D. Monack | talk 02:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I replaced most of the colleges with the WPS teams that the players were allocated to. The other three players are actually still in college. Charles 05:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Assistant coach and nicknames

I have two questions. First: does anyone know if there is an assistant coach for the women's team? The link to the coach staff page on USSoccer.com is dead and I have no way of finding out.

Second: is there an accepted team nickname? The Olympics.com team page said "The Stars and Stripes," but I've never really heard that used. The only remotely common nickname for US national teams is Yanks, and even that is rarely used in reference to the women. Eightball (talk) 04:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

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FIFA International Ranking

Could we list the team's FIFA ranking? According to FIFA's site, the team is ranked #1 in the world. Should that be mentioned!? http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=usa/ranking/gender=f/index.html 121.55.196.124 (talk) 01:36, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I noted that the ranking is listed in the sidebar but it seems to me that it should be in the lead, as it is on the Men's team page. So, I was bold and added the information to the lead. But I'm not sure I did the citation correctly. Thanks for helping a newb.Rhodesisland (talk) 02:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Please do not list the US ranking as #1 yet. While they are all but certain to be the top-ranked team after new rankings come out on 10 July, they are not officially the top ranked squad yet. --Mrfeek (talk) 13:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Women's Team Logo

This is the incorrect logo, as the women have won 2 World Cups (as of the 2011 World Cup) and should have 2 stars on the top of their team crest. You can see it on their uniforms. Can you get a new logo? I will look as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.119.10.10 (talk) 13:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Does anyone have a picture of the new crest with 4 stars in a line to post?Tomrtn (talk) 16:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Status of Brazil match

Is there something I am missing...I've never heard an elimination game with an absolute advancing team called a draw. They did not draw Brazil...they won with a shootout. In fact everywhere I looked for other teams then WON the same way they are denoted as Wins. Am I missing something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris1834 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

A game that goes to penalties is a drawn match. To quote the Penalty shoot-out (association football) article on the matter, " Strictly speaking, kicks from the penalty mark do not result in a match winner. The match remains a draw and the result of the kicks is merely used to select a winner to progress to the next stage of the tournament (or win it in the case of the final). However, in popular usage a team is often said to have "won on penalties", and such matches have their result recorded as (for example): "Team A 2–2 Team B pens., Team B won 5–4 on penalties"." Rebajc3 (talk) 11:52, 13 July 2011 (UTC-05)

But this convention isn't used over in the French national team. England vs France went into penalties, and France is marked the winner in green. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 00:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

That is where I was coming from. Although it is considered a draw with a winner determined by extra time or penalty kicks, the convention is that they have won the game for the purposes of these tables. I have never seen it done the way it is done here. Chris1834 (talk) 03:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Look at last year's World Cup. For example, check out Japan's results and official record in the final table. Even though they lost in penalties, the match is counted as a draw. FIFA officially recognizes the game as a draw. Even the US official website's list of our matches doesn't mark the match as a win. The French page is wrong in this instance. Rebajc3 (talk) 15:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC-05)

Colleges Players Attended

Thought people might be interested to see the colleges players attended. I got this from the Wikipedia links to the players' names.

Hope Solo University of Washington Nicole Barnhart Stanford Heather Mitts University of Florida Christine Rampone Monmouth Becky Sauerbrunn University of Virginia Kelley O'Hara — Preceding unsigned comment added by BCavendish (talk • contribs) 20:21, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Jill Ellis has drawn 5 matches as of December 15, 2014

As of December 15, 2014 Jill Ellis has drawn 5 matches; which one did U.S.Soccer forget.

Date	Location	Opponent	Score	Event
2012-10-20	Bridgeview, IL	Germany	1-1	Friendly
2012-10-22	E Hartford CT	Germany	2-2	Friendly
2014-06-19	E Hartford CT	France	2-2	Friendly
2014-05-08	Winnipeg	Canada	1-1	Friendly
2014-12-10	Brasilia	China	1-1	International Tournament of Brasilia

Harvardton (talk) 01:27, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

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"Colours"

The word "colours" should be spelled "colors" in the infobox. If anyone knows how to fix this, please do so. Tad Lincoln (talk) 22:53, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Two months later; still not done. Some WP editors like to keep the European spelling, FYI, imho. They like 'football' rather than 'soccer' as I found out a few years ago. If you remain with your opinion, you can learn about changing the image-location where it resides. Just do a Google-search including 'site:Wikipedia.com' or go to the WP Help Desk. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 22:08, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

it's their revenge for losing out on the gasoline article 67.169.168.245 (talk) 16:27, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I fixed the spelling.Richiekim (talk) 16:50, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

To nominate for In the News

I just updated this article with mention of the White House welcome, and plan to nominate the article for inclusion in "In the News". MurielMary (talk) 05:52, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Carli Lloyd International Goals

As of February 17, 2016, Carli Lloyd has scored 85, not 86, international goals. (see: http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/02/16/04/45/160215-wnt-tops-olympic-qualifying-group-after-10-0-shutout-against-puerto-rico) The infobox on her Wikipedia page skipped a goal (from 73 to 75) on her first Haiti hat trick, which I believe has caused the confusion, but has now been corrected. Thanks!DB1985 (talk) 23:55, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

As of June 12, 2019, Carli Lloyd's international goal list on her main page shows 109 goals, including her goal yesterday. I changed the number here (which was 111) to 109. -DKMell (talk) 20:51, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Nicknames, again

Let me resurrect the issue of nicknames, previously raised by Eightball (see above). There should be established use of a nickname in published media before it is listed. At this time, for example, the USMNT page identifies three nicknames, and links to references for each one. The USWNT page ought to follow the same standard. Some of the nicknames that have been listed do not turn up a single time under an internet search, and indeed there have been cases of outright vandalism. 173.50.127.215 (talk) 11:56, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Suggested new columns for Olympic & World Cup tables

I think we should add a couple of new columns to the tables that show the results for team USA that will reveal the scores of the championship matches and the opponents. For example....see image attached

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paisano (talk • contribs) 15:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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First match date

The infobox says August 18th, 1985, while the article text says August 12th, 1985. Neither date has a source attached to it. With a bit of digging I came up with http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/mundialito-women.html#1985 , which is linked as a source on Mundialito (women), and that says August 18th. I therefore have changed the article text date to August 18th.

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Injury status

WP:FOOTY has discussed and decided several times that team rosters should not indicate a player's injury status— neither with the INJ abbreviation nor with the logo. These indicators are excessively detailed and violate WP:RECENTISM and MOS:TEXTASIMAGES. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_41#Injury_logo and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_43#Injury_icons_in_rosters. I have removed them from this article and explained why in the edit summary. User:Tomrtn keep trying to add them back in, but without any edit summaries and when I raised this issue on his talk page he simply deleted without comment. CUA 27 (talk) 13:05, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@CUA 27 I would like to bring this up again for discussion on this page. As seen in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_146#User:Bergenoslo this seems like a subject that doesn't have a consensus. I am not stating that the tone of the messages in that discussion are in any way correct, but am saying that as recent as August 2021, many football editors feel the representation of INJ on a withdrawn player is appropriate for the national team because it reflects current status. I understand the Recentism discussion, but isn't that what player call-up lists are, a recent change to the national team's roster? Which in itself is a potential violation of recentism. But, I am sure we are not suggesting we don't have the current roster. All the rest of the discussion seem to revolve around the logo, which I am not suggesting we bring back. All I am saying is that if the current roster is in contrast to recentism, then how is the INJ status more in contrast with recentism? 15:13, 10 April 2023 (UTC) Demt1298 (talk) 15:13, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Appreciate Demt1298 bringing the discussion here. My personal two-cent is that this is settled practice and don't see a good reason for bringing it back up (i.e., pro CUA 27 if we want to share opinion crudely). I said more about this at User talk:Seany91/Archives/2023/April#Mallory Swanson, which is what led to this thread being revived. Seany91 (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Table colors

I changed the color scheme in the World Cup and Olympics tables. See the before and after below for the World Cup tables. The advantage of the new version is that the table is easier to read — i.e., it's much easier to read a table with black font on white background that it is to read on a multicolor background. And the gold/silver/bronze coloring scheme is still maintained in the Result column, so readers still get the visual color cue. I see this new version as having clear advantages and no disadvantages. I'm interested in others' thoughts on this. CUA 27 (talk) 01:42, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

User:DB1985 User:Dale Arnett User:Danielmordor — Pinging a few frequent editors of this page for their reactions. If people like the change, I may propose the same at USMNT, and if that works, I may take it to WP:FOOTY for wider adoption. But I thought I'd start here with one first step. Thanks. CUA 27 (talk) 02:21, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

• Strongly prefer "after" version! Personally, it's long past time someone thought of it. — Dale Arnett (talk) 03:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Previous version

Year	Result	Matches	Wins	Draws	Losses	GF	GA	Coach
1991	Champion	6	6	0	0	25	5	Anson Dorrance
1995	Third Place	6	4	1	1	15	5	Tony DiCicco
1999	Champion	6	5	1	0	18	3	Tony DiCicco
2003	Third Place	6	5	0	1	15	5	April Heinrichs
2007	Third Place	6	4	1	1	12	7	Greg Ryan
2011	Runner-up	6	3	2	1	13	7	Pia Sundhage
2015	Champion	7	6	1	0	14	3	Jill Ellis
Total	3/7	43	33	6	4	112	35

New version

Year	Result	Matches	Wins	Draws	Losses	GF	GA	Coach
1991	Champion	6	6	0	0	25	5	Anson Dorrance
1995	Third Place	6	4	1	1	15	5	Tony DiCicco
1999	Champion	6	5	1	0	18	3	Tony DiCicco
2003	Third Place	6	5	0	1	15	5	April Heinrichs
2007	Third Place	6	4	1	1	12	7	Greg Ryan
2011	Runner-up	6	3	2	1	13	7	Pia Sundhage
2015	Champion	7	6	1	0	14	3	Jill Ellis
Total	3/7	43	33	6	4	112	35

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head coaches

Jill Ellis is listed at having coached 102 but US Soocer posted she now has 124 can someone fill in her correct totals? Tomrtn (talk) 02:40, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

• fixed 6/28Tomrtn (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

References

Dallas U-15 boys team?

Should it be mentioned that this team lost a game to an under 15 boys team?

162.227.41.234 (talk) 12:14, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

History section content

Seany91, please explain why it's so necessary to have a whole paragraph in the history section (meant to be written in Summary style to complement the dedicated history aricle) for a chant that hardly anyone recognizes? There is only one source given, a passing mention in the online glossary, but I have not seen significant coverage of this chant in the USWNT books I own or in most coverage I can search up online. SounderBruce 22:24, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@SounderBruce: This chant has been a team tradition since its founding, so clearly it's not something that "hardly anyone recognizes"; the USWNT Players have literally been slapping it on every merchandise they produce. And no need to take it personally; I didn't write that section myself, and I'm only asking you to follow WP:BRD here since you were removing an entire paragraph from a well-established and -written section. Sources: 1, www.prophet.com/2019/06/supporting-progress-oosa-brand/, 3. Happy holidays to you too. Seany91 (talk) 09:55, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

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What's up with the acronym, USWNT?

Can someone explain how the acronym USWNT came about when the full name is United States Women's National Soccer Team? That looks like it should be USWNST, but it's always USWNT. Why? What's up with that nonsense? Murielgh (talk) 20:14, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

@Murielgh U.S. Soccer refers to them as such here on their website. Are you asking this as a Wikipedia thing or an overall U.S. Soccer thing? Demt1298 (talk) 20:49, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Asking as an overall Wikipedia and general thing. Murielgh (talk) 17:20, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

For Wikipedia, that's the nickname commonly used in sources so that's what we use. As far as why US Soccer does it or whether it's "nonsense"... *shrug* Seany91 (talk) 18:35, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, U S Soccer really doesn't have any need to specify that its national team is a SOCCER team...

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The CONCACAF W Championship isn't the same as the Gold Cup

The CONCACAF W Championship isn't the same as the CONCACAF W Gold Cup. The infobox or whatever it's called at the top right treats them as the same tournament. The Gold Cup is a separate tournament. ACCH (talk) 14:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes ACCH, I believe you are correct. My understanding is they are two separate and distinct tournaments. I suspect any confusion is because the CONCACAF W Championship used to be called the "CONCACAF Women's Gold Cup" as indicated in the hatnote at CONCACAF W Gold Cup. --DB1729^talk 15:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)