Talk:Vehicle registration plates of Malaysia

Vehicle Registration Table

Hey! I've made this table. Feel free to use it if it's necessary. __earth 15:40, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

State/Organization	Character
Federal Territory of Kuala Lumpur	W
Federal Territory of Labuan	L
Federal Territory of Putrajaya	PUTRAJAYA
Johor	J
Kedah	K
Kelantan	D
Melaka	M
Military	Z
Negeri Sembilan	N
Pahang	C
Kelantan	D
Penang	P
Perak	A
Perlis	R
Sabah	S
Sarawak	Q
Selangor	B
Terengganu	T

Why ask? Add it in! And I must thank everybody who played a part in improving the article. As you can see, my father, not me, drives a Malaysian car so I have some ideas. As a teen, my knowledge is inferior to those of Malaysian adults. Mr Tan 14:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Plates applies to cars only?

The title is misleading. Motocycles use the same number platings too. Wouldn't it be better suited if we rename it to Malaysian vehicle number plates? -- Two hundred percent 16:22, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

agreed. __earth ^(Talk) 17:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll move it if there's no objection soon. __earth ^(Talk) 04:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Using tables to illustrate number plates

I have to admit, that was pretty resourceful work. Nice one. But at least one photo is still needed. - Two hundred percent 06:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

e-plate

Anyone knows of e-plate to be launched by the government? I read in newspaper last January/February that all new cars for year 2007 are required to use the new e-plate and gradually over a certain period of time all cars in Malaysia will be required to use it.

It's claimed that the e-plate will capitalize RFID technology with reading distance of 100 metres (i doubt bout this claim).

Further, 200 cameras will be installed along major highways (just like in Singapore) to complement the e-plate.

If i'm not mistaken, e-plate will bu use as speed detection, vehicle theft detection and traffic violation.

Can anyone confirm this? It would be interesting if we can add the material in this site. Thank you. --Suryasuharman 01:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Mind providing some sources? I like to know if it's officially reported on local media sources. - Two hundred percent 10:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Plate Number Formats

The recent edited page at East Malaysia section goes as followed:

"In Sabah this serial letter follows the serial number ("SA 1234 A", followed by "SAA 1234 A" in 2000 after the complete use of postfix letter "X" in the year 1999), and in Sarawak it follows the regional code ("QKA 1234")."

Does that mean the rest of the districts in sabah will also apply the same one as KK in the future? Like sandakan that would be "SDA 1234 A" or Kudat would be "SKA 1234 A"? I haven't heard any news from the state government that it will be follow this way? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xmlv (talk • contribs) 14:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

Sandakan, and others the letter sequence progress quite slow. but probably ur right. so once sandakan reaches SS 9999 X, they might continue with SSA 1 A. But i think there is also some kind of agreement with the S'pore govt to avoid using certain letters to avoid conflicts. see Singapore licence plates. kawaputra^tok2me 05:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I found the following under the Peninsular Malaysia section:

"The algorithm started with a state prefix and a number sequence which ranged from 1 to 9999. For example, W 1 was the first registration plate of Kuala Lumpur in 1974."

Kindly be informed that the prefix "W" was first issued in Province Wellesley (now known as Seberang Prai) during the colonial era. When Kuala Lumpur was ceded and made a Federal Territory in 1974, the first registration plate issued was "WA 1”, as "W 1” had already been issued in Province Wellesley in the past. The registration plate "WA 1” is still in use today - it's the registration plate of the Mayor of Kuala Lumpur's official car. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiantong (talk • contribs) 04:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Plate Number F?

Heya all, I have recently seen plate number F on superbikes in Kuala Lumpur. I've seen FA, FF and FS plate numbers. There's no additional info available. Anyone knows anything? Cheers! - Quastar Vaan (talk) 09:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Those bikes are from Singapore. See: Vehicle registration plates of Singapore. ќמшמφטтгמ^torque 04:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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Fundamental flaws in the "fundamental design" section

All information in the second paragraph of the above mentioned section appeared wrong. Firstly, the alphabet "Z" is never used for civilian vehicles. Hence, the last alphabet in a series is "Y" before it jumps to the next series. Say, the WAx series - it starts with WAA and runs to WAY before it moves to WBA. Next, there is no differentiation between motorcycle registration and other vehicles. Hence, the assertion about 5 digit registration plate for motorcycle is wrong. Thirdly, the Government has not decided on the future of the "W" scheme in Kuala Lumpur when the present scheme is exhausted with the issue of WYY. Not too sure where the author got the impression that it would move into a 5 digit scheme. Lastly, Kelantan is already moving close to the end of the DBx series, and Pahang was already in the CCx series before 2011. In short, everything in this paragraph is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.139.72.80 (talk) 18:11, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Messy

The formatting of the old revision is messy. I removed lots of content and you can add some if you would like to, but don't just simply revert it back. It's too messy.--110.49.234.191 (talk) 16:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Messy

The formatting of the old revision is messy. I removed lots of content and you can add some if you would like to, but don't just simply revert it back. It's too messy.--110.49.234.191 (talk) 16:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I would like to tell you that no one cares about what the flag of each states are, what the current plate number is, how it was like back in 1928, the example which is the same but changed numbers, and other stuff like that. It's just messy and make the article 60,000 bytes long with repeated information.--110.49.234.191 (talk) 17:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not realize you've posted in the Talk section of this page. In response to your claims;

1. The flags help in quick identification of the plates. 2. The current plate number will be removed, since I cannot give objective reasons why they should be kept. 3. The historical data matters. Other Wikipedia articles regarding registration plates have historical data as well. I have taken the liberty to hide some of the data to reduce confusion. In any case, I'll remove some of the less crucial ones.

Please refrain from blanking the article, that won't solve the problem, if anything, you're making it worse. It takes me days and many long hours of hard work to build up this article from near scratch, no thanks to your constant deletions and largely subjective claims of it being messy. Aero777 (talk) 13:14, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Reply:First of all I'm not testing your patience, and, it's still being messy. I'm not reverting this time, but I suggest you to improve it from my version, not that version. It contains lots of false English (Manglish) language (which foreigners doesn't understand). We don't need example of every single state, they're all the same except in Putrajaya, another cases are being taxis, trailers and diplomatic plates, which have different style. Sabah and Langkawi has no difference except the order, I think just one example is enough. And normal articles shouldn't be 60,000 bytes long. My version is easy-understanding where people from all around the world understands how the plates work, how it looks like and other easily. You can add more information from my version.--110.49.248.252 (talk) 16:49, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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I couldn't use your version because it was too simple and lacking in depth. It also lacked historical info. However, I've simplified the current page revision by removing the repetitive examples and flags, at some loss to diversity and depth but acceptable by Wikipedia terms. I hope you're satisfied with it now, it is fairly balanced in terms of depth/information and simplicity.

Aero777 (talk) 19:23, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Reply: Your version is good, but tomorrow (or any days coming) I will edit to make it better, I will use some of the parts from my version too (such as the table).--110.49.251.248 (talk) 17:13, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

——— Okay, sure, you're welcomed to constructively edit the page, but please don't blank/ delete entire sections like before. Thank you for your cooperation. Aero777 (talk) 11:38, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

W 1 - That was the old version. Now, if a new state is separated the plate would be "xAA 1", or "xA 1", not "x 1" anymore, example is in Labuan. And no, before 1974 there were no W prefix. W was part of B. And the first car is WAA 1.--110.49.235.25 (talk) 17:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

If you're going to insist on making the article "more easy to understand", at least avoid convoluted lists, and make distinctions between Peninsular states and the Borneo states. Your listing seems to imply all plate formats in the country share a common origin when it's a actually collection of different colonial formats. Separating into sections for Peninsular states, Sabah and Sarawak worked perfectly fine to me. - 175.139.221.30 (talk) 05:05, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow, I left this article alone for a few weeks, and everything has fallen to pieces again ? What part of editing constructively do you not understand ? You have removed the previous tabulated and organized structure in favour of a layman-ish format. How is that constructive ? You've removed the explanations on how the algorithms work. How do you expect others to comprehend the algorithms now ?

Plus, you've even added bogus claims without citing valid references; (2014 - License plates of Kuala Lumpur will have the running letter suffix. The system would be WXX NNNN X. This system will ...) I've been keeping up to date on the news and I know for a fact that no such announcement has been made by Malaysian authorities as of 31 March 2013. This type of attitude is not tolerated on Wikipedia, as Wikipedia is meant to be encyclopedic in nature. Clearly, you have no or negligible knowledge on this topic and how it is meant to be interpreted with regards to simplicity, depth, accuracy and validity.

I will admit that I may have complicated the article somewhat earlier with the flags and repetitive examples, as you've pointed out. Still, I took the liberty to make it simpler and more constructive, as per your request. However, I personally can't see how this article can be further simplified without compromising depth and quality. I honestly don't even know what you are trying to say in your second and fifth sentences. Clearly, it is iterated in the pre-vandalized versions that the W series started in 1974, with W 1 being the first plate. Here is the indisputable proof;

W 1 WA 1 WAA 1

I am starting to get the impression that you have sinister motives. You are not even a Malaysian, judging by your IP addresses. Why do you even care about this article so much ? It doesn't even concern you, or your people. Why don't you just let it go. Just drop it, and move on with your life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aero777 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I know I'm not Malaysian. I'm from Thailand. But as I've been in Malaysia for 2 months from December 2012 to February 2013 it was three letters with plate made from plastic with some really old cars with two letters and made from metal. By the way, the Mercedes Benz car with license plate "W 1" seems to be new, both the car itself and the plate is made from plastic. I'm NOT saying this plate is fake, but just telling you to check if that was the plate for 1974 or not. It might be the auction like in Hong Kong. For the 2014 is just my assume, but it is 99.99 percent likely to use that, just like Sarawak. It maybe change to the completely new style, or otherwise switch numbers and letters, or change new prefix. I'm not really sure. I know no one owns this article (or any articles) but you should check if inside the article has repeated information or not. I would like to tell you that it is easier to develop from my version rather than removing from your version. It's too messy now.--110.49.243.200 (talk) 16:41, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

In Malaysia, it is possible to bid for and sell license plates. The highest someone has ever spent bidding on a license plate was the 'WWW 1' plate in 2012. Here is some news for insight. It is also possible to transfer old license plates for use on new cars. It is highly likely that the owner of the 'W 1' plate is either 1] the original owner, who transferred the 'W 1' number plate to a new car, or 2] the second/third/fourth etc. owner, who purchased/ bid for the number plate from the previous owner. In any case, the 'W 1' plate was first used in 1974 with the secession of Kuala Lumpur state. Whether it continues to be used or not is not the point of the article. As for the 2014 plate, whether 99.99% likely or not, it is still not definite and is yet to be determined. According to Wikipedia R&R, one cannot contribute information which stems from one's own opinions or perception of the topic. Only the format in which the info is presented may be altered. The info must be legitimate and encyclopedic.

I don't wish to claim ownership of this article, but I am committed to its well-being. Lately, this has become a hotly discussed topic among Malaysians, and many rely on sites like Wikipedia for information. I wish to make sure that the right information is presented in the best possible organized manner. While your version is not wrong (aside from the 2014 plates earlier), it is not very structured and lacks too much supporting information. Messy or not, Wikipedia is about information. Always has been, always will be.

I'm done negotiating. If you keep on claiming that this article is messy, without constructive explaining why, I'm not going to negotiate further. I suggest you prove exactly how your version is better in this talk page instead. Just copy and paste whatever you need, and re-build the article here for a head-to-head comparison. Let others decide which version, yours or mine, is better for the article. Aero777 (talk) 09:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you Malaysian? By the way, the article looks fine now. Next time when you don't finish yet, please include the "under construction" template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.49.232.28 (talk) 08:30, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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WPKL plates old new format

Was there any commentary at the time why the W 1 A etc format was used rather than continuing with the exisiting format and doing WAAA 1 etc? Was it felt that 4 letters in a row was too hard to remember? There is a small increase in the number of possible plates with the W 1 A format (since you can have W 1 A, WA 1 A and WAA 1 A etc whereas with WAAA 1 you effectively only have WAA A 1 and can't have W A 1 and WA A 1 due to the lack of seperation) but this seems like a minor advantage. Perhaps a bigger advantage is when you do run out, WAA 1 AA may be seen as simpler than 5 consecutive letters WAAAA 1. Or perhaps it was more about the belief that the new format would be more popular which didn't turn out to be the case. Or there was simply no commentary from the government on why (this is Malaysia after all). The source used doesn't seem to mention. Nil Einne (talk) 02:16, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

This is not for us to comment about. However silly their design sense is, we're just here to document it. - 210.187.198.193 (talk) 05:28, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Most Commonly Used Number Plate Typeface (License Plates) in Malaysia

"A compact version of Arial Bold[dubious – discuss] is currently the typeface preferred by the Road Transport Department and is thus the most commonly used..."

A compact version of the Arial Bold typeface is Arial Narrow Bold. The Arial Narrow Bold typeface does not resemble the existing number plate typeface used by the majority of vehicles in Malaysia. A cursory analysis of the alphanumeric from the Arial type family (and Arial Narrow Bold typeface) clearly indicates that there is no similarities between the number plate typeface most commonly used by vehicles and Arial. It is highly likely that the typeface was produced by a number plate manufacturer and presently does not exist in a digitised format.

Therefore, because the typeface used by most vehicles in Malaysia does not exist in a digital format as a font, the JPJ diagram for "Kaedah-kaedah Kenderaan Motor (Pendaftaran dan Perlesenan 1959)" showcases the parameters using Arial Bold as a replacement. But this is clearly not the ubiquitous typeface used by a majority of vehicles in Malaysia. This number plate typeface only exist in a hard copy format.

Orangasle (talk) 00:39, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Regarding border crossing travel (especially Singapore)

Undeniably it can be a bit confusing that vehicles with license plates from Singapore visiting Malaysia (and vice versa) can be a little bit confusing due to the history both countries have in common during colonial times. However, do you think the whole section of "Examples of overlapping with Singapore series" needs to be restructured to be more concise, as it was never really a documented problem by either Singapore's LTA or Malaysia's RTD, nor the traffic police from either countries.

It should be noted that Singapore license plates always end with a suffix. While Malaysia only has suffix for W, Q and S series (and several exceptions like LIMO, old East Malaysian formats that always ends with Q or S) that can conflict with Singaporean formats.

Moreover, a lot of the vehicles in Singapore not owned by private cars and buses (with exception to the SBS buses that does go all the way to Larkin Sentral) never leave the country to Malaysia. Plus, Singapore uses a vehicle-type prefixing system while Malaysia used a state (state+divison for East Malaysia) based prefixing system. Such as, a Putrajaya registration car entering Singapore wouldn't cause much confusion as it never has a suffix and F is reserved for motorcycles over there. OtisElevatorGuy1 (talk) 16:06, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Future Provisional Proposal?

Should a sub-section be added, barring the current format xxx #### will soon exhaust all available alphabets?

However, there seems to be not any available sources showing such provision or proposal has been made to public at the moment. Xyes (talk) 17:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)