Talk:Vices & Virtues/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Basilisk4u (talk · contribs) 16:05, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I will review this article. Basilisk4u (talk) 16:05, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Notes

Lead

• The only problem with this section is that there should not be citations in the lead.
  •  Done Removed citations and relocated where appropriate.

Background

• In August, the band once again announced they were writing again to MTV News. Writing what?
  • Good question. I removed the sentence since it doesn't seem to link up with either nearby sentences.
• "The band" is a singular entity, so "they" should not be used when referring to the band
  • What is Wikipedia's policy on using "they" as a indefinite singular antecedent? "They" sounds better when referring to "the band" than "it".

• In British English, a band would be referred to as they, even when saying "Coldplay are a British alternative rock band". However, when talking about an American band, the policy is to refer to groups as "it". To get around it when it is awkward to call the band "it", sometimes I like to say "the band members"; since it is now plural, you can then call them "they". I hope that made sense haha Basilisk4u (talk) 13:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

• The quotes from Walker and Ross need sources
  •  Done
• The article explains that Walker said... This should be in past tense
  •  Done
• This section is a bit quote-heavy - consider paraphrasing a few of them
• Each quote needs a citation directly after it
• "New Perspective", the first song recorded without Ross and Walker, would debut the following month... change to debuted the following month
  •  Done

Recording and production

• Try using other words instead of "band", possibly "group"
• The band was "very confused" after the split from Ross and Walker, desiring instead to go on tour to understand better. Understand what? Clarify
• After working with the demos produced during the summer with Feldmann for several months afterward, the duo decided they weren't satisfactory What wasn't satisfactory? Also, write out "weren't" as "were not"
• The biggest difference for the band was that it was now half the previous band, with Urie and Smith writing everything. Rewrite as "Urie and Smith had difficulty adjusting to the band's new lineup, as the two now had full songwriting responsibility."
• The quote about the producers' help needs a source
• On May 7, 2010, the band posted a batch of photos during recording sessions for Vices & Virtues. Where did the group post these photos, and what is their significance? This sentence seems a bit out of place
• Near the end of the writing process, the band looked back upon the lyrics and noticed that "some of the motion was pining for something, or some of it was vanity, or some of it touched on subversion or overthrowing of somebody or manipulation." This quotation is a bit abstract, possibly give some context as to what he meant in relation to the lyrics. Also, instead of "looked back upon", write "reviewed", and this quote needs a source
• "Urie likened it to the seven deadly sins" What did he liken to the seven deadly sins? The lyrics or the situation?

Music

• It might be nice to include a music sample here, but it is not a requirement
• In the beginning, the band had no direction for music or lyrics. What time was this? When Ross and Walker were still in the band? Or the early writing sessions? Be a little more specific
• ...employing an iPad to record synthesizer on the record. Synthesizer should be plural
  •  Done
• The band got to work with French band The Plastiscines --> The band worked with French band The Plasticines
• "A majority" should be "The majority"
• The biggest inspiration for lyricism was keeping busy and going out What kind of things did they do?
• The lyrics also reflect the confusion after the departure of Ross and Walker. Discuss this further. What songs/lyrics in particular?

Promotion

• I recommend combining this section with the "Release" section to make a "Promotion and release" section
• Vices & Virtues received heavy popularity through online music stores Something about "received heavy popularity" sounds awkward, consider rewording

The "Reception" and "Vices & Virtues tour" sections look good!

References

• All sources need publication information (i.e. Billboard is published by Prometheus Global Media and MTV News is published by Viacom)
• Ref #2 has no information about where it came from (Idolator)

On hold

I have placed the review on hold in order for these concerns to be addressed. Good luck! Basilisk4u (talk) 18:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing this! I will begin working on this asap. :) Yaminator ^talk 16:03, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

• What's going on with this review? Been a month since the last posting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:18, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
• As there have been no edits in the article pertaining to the review for nearly three weeks, I regretfully will need to fail the article. Hopefully it can be renominated soon! Basilisk4u (talk) 17:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
• Apologies for forgetting about this; I'm a pretty sporatic wiki editor, so it completely slipped my mind. I'll make the changes on this page slowly and hopefully re-nominate it one day! Yaminator ^talk 00:14, 23 August 2012 (UTC)