Talk:Vladimir Vysotsky

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Vladimir Vysotskyj or Valdimir Vysotskiy

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

According to the article header his name is Vladimir Vysotskyj but the third image from the top is labeled "Marina Vlady and Valdimir Vysotskiy". Looks like a typo. Both first and last name differes from the name in the header. For all I know this spelling is russian slang, so if anyone with knowledge of the russian language is reading this; please correct the label and/or delete this comment. Ulfkri (talk) 08:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC) In English - Vladimir Vysotsky, in Latin - Vladimir Vysotskij. All I want to say is that the article in English is absurdly Anti-Soviet. The Russian one never mentions how critical he was and so on. The west loves to make this stuff up. He was a good Soviet musicsian who lived in the USSR all his life. What is so hard to understand about that? Why did he have to hate the Soviet Union to be a good artist? Im always told how Soviet propaganda was bad. Some so called Democrats should take a good hard look at themselves and some of the lies the peddel. Even Brezhnev liked him!Brezhnev, Yes the leader on the Soviet Union! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.32.226.75 (talk) 18:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Old talk

Latest comment: 20 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

File:Vladimir vysotsky grave.jpg

An image we could possibly use

The Wikipedia style page suggest images of size 200-300 pixels. Maybe we should use a larger picture? Maybe it will be better to use a thumbnail.
Some more biographical information could be added from the last URL I posted, provided that it is accurate. --IYY 20:12, 16 May 2004 (UTC)Reply

Looks like we're working well on this, I'm also reading some sources, but I have limited time, trust that this will come out alright eventually. e.g. Marina Vlady wrote that they married at age thirty, that would mean ~~1978~~ 1968 (instead of 1975 as presently stated). The father's report reads quite interesting. As far as the picture is concerned, it's from a cover, and rather low quality; could possibly make it 180 wide, guess higher quality would also strain the "fair use" clause... --Palapala 22:06, 2004 May 16 (UTC)

1975 seems to be the date on all websites, so it's most likely to be accurate. Since both of them were born in 1938, marrying at the age of thirty would suggest the year 1968, which is too far from our date to be accurate. Need to research more on this topic to be certain. As for the picture, I am not entirely sure what the copyright policies would be. Are we allowed to use an album cover? ~~I will also scan a photograph of his grave site later.~~ --IYY 23:14, 16 May 2004 (UTC)Reply

What's the source of this magnificent shot...? --Palapala 21:55, 2004 May 17 (UTC)

The photograph was taken by my father some time in the early 1980's. --IYY 00:37, 18 May 2004 (UTC)Reply

Will think of a way to incorporate it. --Palapala 08:19, 2004 May 18 (UTC)

IMDB's entry on Marina Vlady claims that the marriage date was 1969. This is also the date on the Italian article for Vladimir Vysotsky on Wikipedia. --IYY 03:46, 18 May 2004 (UTC)Reply

Sounds more reasonable to me, will changed it. --Palapala 08:19, 2004 May 18 (UTC)

Not quite sure about the following line in the first paragraph: He was the most recognized Russian bard, although he himself spoke of this term with irony. He thought of himself mainly as an actor and writer, and once remarked, "I do not belong to what people call bards or minstrels or whatever." It's not that it's incorrect (as it does seem that the quote is by him) but maybe it does not belong in the first paragraph where it gives the impression that he did not take his music seriously. And that he was strongly opposed to the bard movement. In several recordings he did mention writing his songs in the "author's song" style. --IYY 21:01, 25 May 2004 (UTC)Reply

Not quite happy with it either; you've got a point there that it might give a false impression. On the other hand, he used to state that his profession is "actor". Could you think of an alternative wording more appropriate...? --Palapala 04:22, 2004 May 26 (UTC)

IMO it gives just right impression. He stressed that he was a professional, not just next best hobby singer. Please don't forget that the term "bard" only gradually, in the historical perspective, acquired a high meaning. Initially, it was used mostly ironically. Only when time passed and only highly respectable "bards" remained in memories, the term became less ironical. For example, hardly Galich was called "bard" for his "ballada o probavochnoj stoimosti" (or who was the author?). A can agree that the issue may be put in more detail, but placed somewhere below down the text. Mikkalai 06:44, 26 May 2004 (UTC)Reply

Again, I apologize for the wording in the edit comments. Unfortunately, I don't feel I can write much first-hand info. I added only for what I can vouch for. I will try to contact true fans and urge them to write more. Mikkalai 17:13, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Possible amendments

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

= Russia

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Na koncertah Vladimira Vysotskogo 13 [LP] (19xx)
Na koncertah Vladimira Vysotskogo 16 [LP] (19xx)
Mapuna Bradu [CD] (19xx) (note: most likely, this is Cyrillic characters made with a latin script for Marina Vladi -Марина Влади in russian)
Ohota na volkov / Hunting Wolves [LP] (19xx)

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As so much of his work was recorded on tape by amateurs/with home musical equipment by fans or concert-goers, it's difficult to consider the substantial amount of recordings available today as official.

Jewish heritage

A source below in the discussion cites him as having been baptized. The citation-in article for "of mixed Jewish[1] and Russian descent" only explicitly says that his grandmother was Jewish, but married a Ukrainian man during WWII to avoid Nazi persecution. The original name of the grandfather appears to be of Jewish descent, but he changed it to a Russian form - with no explicit mention of Jewish heritage. Is this sufficient to mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.226.62 (talk) 05:22, 24 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Religion

I can't find info anywhere whether Vysotsky was religious or not. He doubtlessly has religious thematics appearing in his works. One could argue that as he references God and Orthodox churches, etc. both as symbols and metaphors, he could be religious - but one could also say that this was him assuming another role. Verdict? Sources? :)

Rakovich Robert did a doctoral dissertation on religious themes appearing in his works at the Pechskiy University - but I don't know if that source can be located. here = http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/dmpershin/post108982817/ (use google translate) it references an interview with Vysotsky's son, who said that "he was baptized in an Armenian church (orthodox), the most beautiful of icons. Next to them stood two Catholic statues of the Savior and the Virgin Mother. I believe they were some kind of decorative element." (paraphrase-ish)

good picture and sources

From a concert in Moscow, 1979 http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap002hn2.jpg while performing "Pismo iz Kanatchikovoy Dachi"

Also, here are some potential sources (in Russian; however, could use Google translator) http://www.peoples.ru/art/music/bard/vysotsky/interview2.html - An interview with Vysotsky's doctor http://www.peoples.ru/art/music/bard/vysotsky/index.html - biography; mentions Vysotsky's meeting with Marina Vladi - in 1967. http://www.peoples.ru/art/music/bard/vysotsky/index1.html - list of historical events. http://www.peoples.ru/art/music/bard/vysotsky/history6.html - even more detailed bio. http://www.peoples.ru/art/music/bard/vysotsky/history5.html - mentions how in 1975 he slept 2-2.5 hours a night. http://www.peoples.ru/art/music/bard/vysotsky/history4.html - Mentions how his last love was an actress, Oksana Afanasyeva.

Discography

I know "Melody" published several vynils of songs of Vysotsky of the "patriotic" theme (a bureaucratic term, hence in quotes) of WWII.

The official Vysotsky websites go in deeper detail of presenting individual songs, even individual records of them, unfortunately I falied to find any pre-CD era discography. Mikkalai 20:11, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Drug use

Marina Vlady's book describes in detail Vysotsky's use of morphine over years. I do not believe the book mentions heroin specifically (which by the way, is a derivative of morphine, according to Wikipedia's entry on the drug), but it does seem to suggest that Vysotsky experimented with anything he could get his hands on. In any case, morphine use is indeed common knowledge and also appears to be well documented. The cause of his death is more contraversial and it is not necessary to speculate about it as long as the reader is informed at some point in the article of Vysotksy's alcohol and drug use throughout his life.

I don't want to start an edit war, but it's a well known fact that Visotsky was a heroin addict, it's just not often mentioned. I couldn't find a better source than[1], but the site doesn't seem to be a reliable information source. It's just common knowledge, I remember my mom telling me about it. Ask your own parents (is you're from the former USSR), they'll tell you. In my opinion, things like this, which are common knowledge but undocumented, should definitely be part of Wikipedia. --Aramgutang 04:47, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps it was alcohol addiction? — Monedula 06:31, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This was in addition to the alcohol addiction. The way I usually hear it phrased is "Высоцкий кололся", meaning he would "inject himself", presumably with heroin. --Aramgutang 10:21, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that morphine is also generally injected. 67.138.153.182 21:55, 24 Apr 2005 (EST)

Yes, in fact Marina Vladi's book confirms that it was morphine (which was probably much more available at the time), as stated in the article. --Aramգուտանգ 04:27, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Indeed, I have searched Russian Internet and have found many accounts of Vysotsky's heroin addiction. So it seems to be true. — Monedula

There is "common knowledge", and there is libel. Unless you can provide a reliable source, the statement is false. It is not a gossip site here. I can list you a dozen of reasons why this could be a deliberate misinformaion. I am in no way going to idealize Vysotsky, but I'd suggest you to be diligent in serious issues. As a minimum, the phrase must be stated not as a matter of fact, but rather cautiously, something like: "Today some write that Vladimir was drug addict, but neither Marina Vladi nor other persons really close to Vladimir say that." (I am not vouching for the truth of this statement either; just an example.) Mikkalai 18:15, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I was hoping to encourage someone with access to credible information sources to either prove or diprove the statement, because the Internet doens't seen to offer a realible answer. And I didn't intend his addiction to have a negative quantitation (I love Visotsky as much as the next guy), but rather be identified as a factor that contributed to the deterioration of his health and his death. Heroin withdrawal is a more enduring and merciless experience than anything the average person is likely to experience in a lifetime, and is a result of only a few easily made bad decisions. A heroin addiction doesn't make anyone a worse person, most people experiment with drugs, this just happens to be a drug that doesn't forgive you for it. --Aramgutang 22:43, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I just watched a TV show about Visotsky's last couple of years, including the circumstances that led to his death, and several of the people interviewed -- people that knew him personally -- confirmed that he had used heroin as well as morphine. Added that to the article.

Joe Dassin comparison

I just wanted to point out that when Vysotsky is compared to Dassin, it isn't usually in the context of their music, but in a political context. Dassin was French/American, a foreigner, and the life of the Soviet people was completely alien to him. However, because of his communist political affiliation, he was given attention by the Soviet media. Vysotsky was loved by the Soviet people and yet the media almost completely ignored him. I think this should be worked into the article somehow. 67.138.153.182 21:55, 24 Apr 2005 (EST)

Is the link to external article, "The Word of V.V." appropriate in current form?

Latest comment: 19 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I just noticed the last entry in the "External links" section of the article is "The Word of Vladimir Vysotsky, by Akbar Ali Muhammad (international publication)". I took a look at the linked page (somewhat cursory, I admit), and it seems that this "publication" is someone's personal/religious (and, IMHO, very skewed) take on some Vysotsky's work.

Given that the rest of the entries in the section are links to [good] informational sites about V.V., song archives, and so forth, it seems that lumping this entry along with the others is a bit misleading (seeming to indicate that the article has some authority, which is arguable at best). I'm not sure what the wikipedia policy about external links is, but at the very least I think it would be more appropriate to at least mark it as a link to someone's personal opinion, as opposed to a real scholarly publication).

VG

Nov 15 2005

129.55.200.20 17:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Cause of death

Latest comment: 17 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Was it that he died of a heroin overdose? The article doesn't specify.Constanz - Talk 12:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

it wasn't heroine overdose for sure. he drank with his friends in a bar. he drank too much vodka. and lost control of himself. people in the bar had to tie him up with ropes to calm him down. there were rumors that his overly emotional behavior in the bar was instigated by certain individuals(KGB??). that's as much as I know. he died later in hospital from heart attack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.0.137.76 (talk) 18:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Circumstances of death

Latest comment: 15 years ago13 comments4 people in discussion

Listen, we can argue about the circumstances discussed in thes section until the cows come home. The key issue is that this whole section is clearly very biased and stands out as a badly written insertion. The very first sentence alludes to "fairly convincing evidence" which is a "weasel word" by Wikipedia standards, and it only goes downhill from there on. I suggest this section be deleted or drastically rewritten. User GOGANESS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.131.94.93 (talk) 17:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have removed the whole section: unreferenced accusations against living people in drug trading and murder is a blatant violation of WP:BLP Alex Bakharev (talk) 12:01, 24 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Removal of a whole section on a made up charge that 'it is unreferenced', when everyone can see the reference it contains, is a clear violation of wikipedia principles, and borders of vandalism. It is unbecoming of an administrator. 'Accusations of drug trading and murder' are your exaggerations of what the section contains. It uses no such words, and its contents are no more or less than the text it contains. All based on quotations of participants in the events. People can judge for themselves what they think of it without your subjective interpretation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unveiled (talk • contribs) 02:57, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

You are probably not very familiar with wikipedia policies. While I may guess that Alex simply didn't noticed a single tiny footnote, and hence he wrote "unreferenced accusations", you must provide more detailed references, i.e., direct links to book pages, to negative statements, with exact attributions of all opinions. Such thing must be easily verifiable, since there are plenty of people who used to write various rumors in this article. "Easily verifiable" means that I must not read the whole book to find confirmation. Please start with footnoting the most strong accusations. Later people may want to request additional confirmations in other places. - 7-bubёn >t 03:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

An additional concern is the credibility of the book ("книги Валерия Перевозчикова"). You must explicitly state that this section draws mainly from this book, and you must provide a reasonable info about the author. As I see, he wrote quite a few books about Vysotski. If he is notable, please consider writing the article "Valeri Perevozchikov". - 7-bubёn >t 03:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia policies are that 'more detailed references' must be provided than 'a single footnote' which can be 'missed'?. 'Direct links' must be provided to 'pages with negative statements' (and who is to judge what is a negative statement)?. 'Footnote the most strong accusation' - and are you going to define what these are? This is nonsense.

Now have a look at wikipedia pages, say the present one. How many references do you see directly linked to statements on the page? In the way you are suggesting this section should be referenced?

Sounds like you have a personal agenda. If there is any 'genuine' interest from people concerning specific statements in this section, I can provide them.

I do not need to write anything about Valerii Perevozchikov, that is also not a WP rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unveiled (talk • contribs) 03:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

I was giving you a friendly advice how to proceed with minimal conflict. If it is something unclear in my advice, please ask a question, rather than take a warrior stance. Now answering to one of your reasonable questions: "who is to judge what is a negative statement" - You are, basing on common understanding what is good and what is bad. Example: "Person X is a very bad man" -it is a negative statement. "Person X sells heroin" - it is negative statement. (Of course there are not so evident cases, but I am not concerned about them now.) Now a multiple-choice question for exercise: "Vysotsky's associates had all put in efforts to supply his drug habit" - is it positive or negative statement about Vysotsky's associates? Your choices: (A) negative (B) positive (C) dunno (D) bug off, you admin bully. (The correct answer is A) - 7-bubёn >t 04:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
" How many references do you see directly linked to statements on the page?" -Many, believe me. In your case, the book is online, and in small pieces. You may link to the webpage in question, rather than to the book titlepage. - 7-bubёn >t 04:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Finally about Perevozchikov, there is a wikipedia rule about reliable sources: you may cite only sources proven to supply correct information. We don't base wikipedia article on musings of random paparazzi. Therefore I am asking for you to establish the credibility of the book author. If you cannot, people can rightfully question your addition: who the heck this Perevozchikov? Nobody knows him in English speaking world. - 7-bubёn >t 04:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
P.S. Please sign you posts by typing four tildas: ~~~~ - they will automagically convert into your signature similar to mine and the SineBot will not spoil the readability of the talk. - 7-bubёn >t 04:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

People can judge for themselves whether what you wrote above is 'friendly advice'.

The statement you quote is indeed negative and I can supply a page quote, but that is not the end of the story. You will then want me to prove Perevozchikov's credibility and every other little detail. The book has come out a while ago - he has written several on Vysotsky. They all contain quotes from conversations with the direct participants - the people I named on the list. He has not been sued. Its freely available - I had provided a link to the online version. If you cant read Russian use babelfish. For some reason you only want to challenge this particular source in a selective fashion. If you can find any indications that Perevozchikov has been sued for defamation, post it. Do your own research.

Then you say you see 'many' references linked directly to statements on the page. Now this is dishonest. There are 2. Once I discover a dishonesty I dont discuss further. Goodbye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unveiled (talk • contribs) 04:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

<shrug> Whatever. - 7-bubёn >t 07:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Since a number of people have taken an interest in this section, accompanied by some fairly frayed reactions let me say more.

The first point, which has not been addressed, but which bothered me when writing this contribution is, is there a need for a separate section entitled 'circumstances of death' in an encyclopoedic article? My reasons for are the following: there is a lot of (mis)information and speculation on this subject - much of which has mislead me in the past, with fairly drastic consequences to how one should regard the phenomenon of Vysotsky and the Soviet period as a whole. Some of these are present in previous versions of the current page. To wit, Vysotsky died either of a heart attack (possibly due to alcoholism) but in any case brought about by mistreatment by Soviet authorities. There are other rumours, such as 'the ambulance deliberately arrived late because the authorities wanted him dead'. And yet when you read Perevozchikov's books (or indeed Zolotukhins), here is a picture of a man living as if there is no iron curtain. He can travel to Paris or Tahiti on a whim - when most Soviet citizens can't even exit the country once. He can travel far above the speed limit in the wrong lane while drunk, crash, and get away with it by inviting the investigating superintendent with family to a party at his flat. He can obtain narcotics regularly and not be punished - in a society where narctotics were so rare most people weren't aware of what they are and their effect on the human body - which is why his Russian concert audience in his latter years mostly did not understand what is wrong with him.

The second point is Vysotsky's songs. They are not ABBA songs, where it could be argued the character traits of the singers/composers are not relevant to their artistry. They are what is termed in the article 'bard songs' - their closest relatives in English are the protest songs of Bob Dylan and the like. Many are deeply personal, about society, about how one should behave towards friends, in short about morals. So the question of the author's personal behaviour in this regard is relevant, and can not be termed mere voyeurism. It’s a bit like if Bob Dylan were a member of the KKK, that would be relevant.

Then there is the issue of the author's , Valery Perevozchikov's, credibility. I would not waste my time writing hearsay far removed from the truth about an iconic Soviet phenomenon such as Vysotsky. But the text, for anyone who can read Russian, is highly believable. It is not a rant or demagogeury. It is peppered with quotes from first hand sources, the authors main contribution is to put them on a time-line and tie them all together. And almost all facts do indeed fit - subject to the slight variability in peoples memory, that one indeed always encounters. And they fit with Zolotukhin's recollections - which being a diary are also a highly valuable source. Perevozchikov does not try to deliberately tarnish Vysotsky's legacy, in fact all material is presented tactfully in an understanding fashion. He tries to avoid conflict. Yet the overall picture is as presented in this section. To date none of the characters that are indeed alive has filed for defamation.

Now a reference that "Vysotskys associates had all put in efforts to supply his drug habit" (there are many quotes of different people mentioning individuals separately, but this quote of Oksana puts it succinctly). I quote the Russian ^[2] and translate:

В.Шехтман: "Приезжаю в театр. Володя дал мне два маленьких флакончика закручивающихся и говорит: 
Чеши к Толику Федотову! Толика на месте нет, я - обратно: Володя, Толика нет. 
Он звонит, Толик появился... 
Давай еще раз. 
Я еще раз туда и обратно. 
При мне в уборной - раз! ввел наркотик! - пошел доигрывать..." 
13 июля - "Гамлет". 
Оксана: "Володя играл, я его ждала. Посылал ли он кого-нибудь? Наверное... Тогда мы все были в   
состоянии "боевой готовности" - в любой момент мчаться куда-то. Но я - гораздо меньше, чем ребята. Они 
же все это доставали..."

V. Shekhtman: "I arrived at the theater. Vladimir gave me two small containers and said: off with you to Anatolii Fedotov! Anatolii was not at his place, I returned - "Vladimir, Anatolii is not there". He rings, Anatolii answered .. "Come on, go again". Once more I went and came back. In my presence in the toilet he - in one go, injected the narcotic! - went on to finish the play .."

13 of july its "Hamlet".

Oksana Afanas'eva: "Vladimir performed, I awaited him. Did he send anyone? Perhaps.. At that time we were all in a state of "high alert", ready to hurry-off at a moments notice. But I - much less than the guys. They procured all that stuff ..."

One can hardly have doubts regarding the authenticity of V. Perevozchikov, he is highly regarded in Russian literary circles. One can find many references on the Russian internet praising the quality of his work. Here is an example [3] Unveiled (talk) 13:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

A bit non encyclopedic?

Latest comment: 13 years ago5 comments4 people in discussion

I find this sentence a bit non encyclopedic: Fueled by Marina's exotic status as a Frenchwoman in the Soviet Union, and Vladimir's unmatched popularity in his country, their love was passionate and impulsive.

I mean, it might be true that their love was passionate and impulsive, but I feel it should have references. And about the origins of this passion, I guess it's only for them to say if it was connected to their public status (a quote could work here). Udi Raz (talk) 14:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Not only it is non encyclopedic but it is sheer nonsense. Even if this was mentioned in RS, it would still be un-encyclopedic. - BorisG (talk) 15:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

If you find such sentences in the next future, just delete 'em.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Many other parts are worse. For example, "Vysotsky was an avid alcoholic and heroin addict yet some people feel that part of the blame for his death lies with the group of associates who surrounded him in the last years of his life", and so on [web site link]. But the link does not really make such claim and hardly qualify as RS. Unfortunately, I can not fix it because of my topic ban.Biophys (talk) 19:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

P.S. I can see above a very reasonable comment about this made by the banned User:Mikkalai. Seriously, he must be allowed to return. Biophys (talk) 19:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Greetings from Russia

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I use a translator. To answer some questions. 1) Vysotsky died due to a weak heart. Heart was weak from birth. 2) The religiosity is unknown. The book is written by Marina Vlady that Vysotskky not believe in God..

specify your e-mail. I will answer the other questions and help with the discography.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.162.4.123 (talk) 08:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Why revert?

Latest comment: 12 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

@Galassi. This tells: "His father, Semyon Volfovich (Vladimirovich) (1915–1997), was a Jewish colonel in the army originally from Kiev." Which Army? Who originated from Kiev, his father or the Army? What does it mean "Jewish"? Religion, ethnicity or something else? Which exactly sources support this assertion? My very best wishes (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ethnicity, of course: http://www.jewish.ru/culture/press/2009/01/news994271088.php .--Galassi (talk) 16:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Even if you think that Михаил НАЗАРЕНКО is a reliable source (I would definitely prefer a better source), then this text should be properly rephrased to make it understandable and explain why the Jewish ethnicity of his farther was so important for his biography. Perhaps it was, but why? Was he a Jewish nationalist? No.My very best wishes (talk) 16:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Mikhail Nazarenko is a notable philologist, and a professor at Kiev University. He passes the WP:RS criteria. --Galassi (talk) 17:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply