Talk:Vowel breaking
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Nardog in topic Page at right location?
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Page move
editIt has been proposed that Breaking be renamed and moved to Breaking (disambiguation). Based on the article traffic tool, Breaking should be move to Breaking (disambiguation) and Breaking (martial arts) should be moved to Breaking. Please comment at Talk:Breaking.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 14:46, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Page at right location?
editIs this page at the right location? Currently, diphthongization redirects here, but Lyle Campell Historical Linguistics: An Introduction says "Breaking refers to the diphthongization of a short vowel in particular contexts" (p. 34) and "Breaking is a kind of diphthongization" (p. 36).--Ermenrich (talk) 19:59, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- What makes you think it isn't? Nardog (talk) 20:13, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- The two quotes I gave say that breaking is a type of diphthongization. Currently the article treats them as synonyms and redirects diphthongization here. Shouldn't it be the other way around (or the topics can be split)?--Ermenrich (talk) 20:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- I've posted a notice about this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics. Maybe somebody knows something I don't.--Ermenrich (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think just because there's a more generic term means the article should assume that name. We generally weigh popular usage and the focus of the article more heavily. Nardog (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- The problem isn't that there's a more precise term. The article currently covers diphthongization of all kinds, not just breaking. That's like if we had our article titled "Sandhi" cover all kinds of assimilation. The one thing is contained within the other, not the other way around. Breaking only refers to one kind of diphthongization, of short vowels in certain environments.--Ermenrich (talk) 21:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Start an RM then. Trask's Dictionary of Phonetics and Phonology gives different definitions than Campell btw (but still indicates breaking is a hyponym of diphthongization). Nardog (talk) 21:50, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- The problem isn't that there's a more precise term. The article currently covers diphthongization of all kinds, not just breaking. That's like if we had our article titled "Sandhi" cover all kinds of assimilation. The one thing is contained within the other, not the other way around. Breaking only refers to one kind of diphthongization, of short vowels in certain environments.--Ermenrich (talk) 21:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think just because there's a more generic term means the article should assume that name. We generally weigh popular usage and the focus of the article more heavily. Nardog (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2022 (UTC)