Talk:Walk the Line

De-emphasis of religion

Walk the Line director James Mangold says, "The part of John's story that we're telling about is the part where he pushed God away" but religion was still prominent in Johnny Cash's early career. Walk The Line is one of the best movies of all time! And that is a fact!

Sam Phillips did steer Cash away from gospel songs but his first record for Sun contained two Christian songs: "I was there when it happened" and "If the good Lord's willing". Cash left Sun for Columbia on the guarantee that he could make a completely gospel album, 1959's Hymns by Johnny Cash. He followed that up with other religious albums, 1962's Hymns from the Heart and 1963's The Christmas Spirit, as well as songs scattered among otherwise secular records such as "The Great Speckled Bird" on 1959's Songs of Our Soil and "Amen" on 1965's Orange Blossom Special.

The movie shows a close-up of a letter from Folsom prisoner Glen Sherley but doesn't show the Folsom concert closer where Cash played Sherley's song "Greystone Chapel" and shook his hand.

The scene of Jerry Lee Lewis stating they were all doing "the devil's work" is accurate but leaves out Cash's response, "I'm not doing the devil's work. I'm doing it by the grace of God because it's what I want to do."

It's not shown that Cash was backed by the country/gospel group The Statler Brothers at Folsom.

Much time is spent on Cash's drug problems and June Carter's role in helping him but the film omits the pivotal role of religion. In the fall of 1967, Cash was so despondent over his drug use that he drove to the Nickajack Cave to kill himself by becoming lost in its darkness. He wrote in his 1975 autobiography:

"The absolute lack of light was appropriate, for at that moment I was as far from God as I have ever been. My separation from Him, the deepest and most ravaging of the various kinds of loneliness I'd felt over the years seemed finally complete. It wasn't. I thought I'd left him but He hadn't left me. I felt something very powerful start to happen to me, a sensation of utter peace, clarity and sobriety. I didn't believe it at first. I couldn't understand it.... the feeling persisted though and then my mind started focusing on God.... there in Nickajack cave I became conscious of my destiny. I was not in charge of my own death. I was going to die at God's time, not mine. I hadn't prayed over my decision to seek death in the cave, but that hadn't stopped God from intervening…I told my mother that God had saved me from killing myself. I told her I was ready to commit myself to Him and do whatever it took to get off drugs. I wasn't lying."

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eiger (talk • contribs) 19:13, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

What, specifically, are you arguing should be changed/added to this article? -Mysekurity ^{(have you seen this?)} 00:35, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Consideringthat the co-writer directer has said something to the effct of "It didn't make sense to concentrate on religion at a point in his life where he was obviously falling from grace and becoming lost.", I don't think the mention of religion needs to be in this article.

Little Details

The article says,

She feels uncomfortable performing it with Cash, but he ignores her protests and kisses her in the middle of the performance. She storms off the stage and they go their separate ways, despite Cash's protest that "it was only a song."

However, I think it's worth noting the store scene where that lady strikes a chord with June when she remarks about June's divorce, and then adding that June saw the same lady in the audience, which probably made her think that she was acting too freely with John on the stage. Zekintha 21:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

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guitar music at the end of credits?

6 Sept 2006

I would like to know what this music is and if I can purchase the sheet music for my son who plays. It is just the guitar beibng played.I think I may not be the onlyone to have this question.

Thanks

67.190.165.164 19:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)Chris

Director Surprised Citation - someone have the DVD?

In the Trivia section regarding the director's surprise at Phoenix pulling the sink off of the wall needs a citation. I believe that was in the DVD commentary. However, I got it on Netflix so I can't verify that.--I Use Dial (talk) 03:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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Unsourced material

The following is unsourced information:

• Witherspoon told Oprah Winfrey that she had second thoughts about starring in the film and that she had wanted to back out of her agreement to the point where she involved her lawyer to try to get her out of the film. She later changed her mind and took the role up as a challenge.
• Phoenix and Witherspoon performed their own vocals and instrument takes in the film's numerous stage appearances. They also released a CD of their vocals along with those of some of the other actors, which is the soundtrack to the movie. However, at least some of the takes on the CD are different takes than those used in the film.
• Critic Roger Ebert, who gave high praise to the film, reported that he was surprised to learn that the Hollywoodesque scene, in which Cash proposes to Carter onstage during a concert in London, Ontario, was a true event. SOURCE - Ebert's Review: [1]
• Both Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon were nominated for CMA Awards in 2006 for the music video for the song Jackson as released on the Walk the Line soundtrack.
• The scene where Johnny Cash pulls the sink off the wall was unscripted and surprised director James Mangold. In the parody Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, the titular character does the same thing repeatedly in several scenes.
• Johnny Cash was so taken by the 1980 cult Western film, The Long Riders, that he contacted the film's writer/producer James Keach (who also portrayed Jesse James in it) and the two became close friends. Cash asked Keach to be involved in the development of Walk the Line which Keach produced.
• Two scenes in the film show Johnny Cash removing lit cigarettes from the mouth of a sleeping Luther Perkins. This foreshadows Perkins's actual death in a house fire, which was ignited when Perkins fell asleep with a lit cigarette. LUTHER DIED IN HOUSE FIRE - ENDLESS SOURCES - HERE'S ONE [2]
• Shooter Jennings portrayed his father, Waylon Jennings. SEE CAST LIST AND ANYWHERE IN GOOGLE
• Waylon Jennings' godson and namesake, Waylon Payne, played Jerry Lee Lewis.
• Vocal coach Roger Love trained Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon to sing like their respective characters.
• The jokes made by Johnny Cash at the Folsom Prison concert in the film about the water reflect jokes made by Johnny Cash at the actual event. He made a passing comment about the fact it tasted like it had "Run off Luther's boots or something". This can be heard at the end of Cash's rendition of "Long Black Veil"
• Memphis disc jockey Bob Neal is played by Johnny and June's son, John Carter Cash, in a deleted scene. The scene is included in the extended cut of the film released on DVD in 2008. Neal, who had been Elvis Presley's first manager, went on to manage Cash.
• The poster for Walk the Line was designed by Shepard Fairey's design agency, Studio Number One.

While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 04:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

References

Articles

• Fade to Black
• Cash Up Front
• Walk the Line DVD review
• Sweet Home, Tennessee
• Another Man in Black Visits Folsom Prison
• Sensations of a Breakthrough Performance: Reese Witherspoon in Walk the Line
• The Secrets That Lie Beyond the Ring of Fire
• Reese Witherspoon: Blonde ambition
• Coming Attractions

- here are a bunch of links to articles that can be used.--J.D. (talk) 15:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Plot length

At 990 words, this plot is way over WP:FILM guidelines of 400-700. It needs to be trimmed of excessive and extraneous detail to meet consensus standards. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:55, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Plot

This section is very poorly written. Not only is the style akward and out of line with most other wiki film entries, it is very unclear. 71.184.251.201 (talk) 21:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

No production section?

I just discovered that the article has no production section. Therefore, I am considering about adding the production section if we can find reliable sources here. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

@Sjones23 do it. 2600:1004:B33B:F41E:28:2B4D:430F:A836 (talk) 15:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

plot, cast, production?

where is everything? 2600:1004:B33B:F41E:28:2B4D:430F:A836 (talk) 15:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)