Talk:Water-related industry in Africa/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lovinne (talk · contribs) 02:59, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Failed "good article" nomination

This article has failed its Good article nomination. This is how the article, as of May 16, 2017, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Although the prose is generally clear and concise, there are some minor issues with spelling, grammar, and punctuation. Some sentences get a bit lost, such as the first sentence of the "agriculture" subtopic. The article uses numerous "words to watch": very significantly, however, notably, current, currently, recently, etc.

2. Verifiable?: Sources are reliable, though the article relies almost entirely on the UN World Water Development Report, and adopts the viewpoints of this source.

3. Broad in coverage?: The article is titled "Water in Africa," but only addresses water as it relates to industry in Africa. There is no discussion of water bodies in Africa, water consumption, sources of water, seasonal variation, etc. The article devotes extensive explanation to tangentially-related topics, such as job creation, and population growth. The list of fisheries also includes marine fishing statistics, which are irrelevant to an article about water in the continent of Africa.

4. Neutral point of view?: Because the article relies entirely on the UN World Water Development Report, it reflects the conclusions of that source and that source only. There are numerous evaluative claims: "Though this is extreme, it reinforces the need for water infrastructure to sustain production and jobs in the nascent African economies." "However, such estimates do not take account of the potential displacement or disappearance of existing jobs.[2] These would need to be carefully assessed in terms of social, economic and environmental impacts in the overall context of responsible agricultural investment." "Furthermore, the growth is skewed to the young and that component of the population that will need jobs is expected to increase rapidly and comprise 910 million out of the projected two billion total population by 2050." The article takes as fact anything the UN World Water Development Report asserts, but there do exist conflicting opinions of what "needs" to happen in Africa.

5. Stable?: Article is stable.

6. Images?: The images presented are free of copyright infringements. The article may benefit from picture of water bodies in Africa.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— Lovinne (talk) 16:37, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

A passer-by's comment

Hi, I notice that the article provides data on marine (sea) fishing. It is very hard to see the relevance of this to water resources, which surely means fresh water. One generally doesn't measure the sea as a resource for salt water, nor count marine fish as part of a nation's water resources. Sure, these things are natural resources but that's another topic entirely; and while the sea is around Africa, it isn't inside that continent. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Lovinne, thanks very much for assessing this article. One of the reasons I nominated this article for GA is I want to understand how compatible text from UN reports was with Wikipedia. They are available under a compatible license and have a significant amount of work and research invested into them. I'm trying to understand more widely how to convert existing sources of open license text into something that is suitable for Wikipedia.

I wonder if perhaps the content of this article would be more suitable under a new title, perhaps something with the word industry in?

Also to reply to the comments about the information on marine industries, my understand is this is included because it fits within the territorial water of the country. I don't think the report covers only fresh water as a rule, it will also consider saltwater lakes and deltas.

Thanks again

--John Cummings (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Reply

Hey John Cummings, glad I could help! While I agree that UN reports are reputable sources, I think that any article ought to have more than one main source. And yeah, I think this article would do better with a more specific title, e.g. "Water-related industry in Africa" Lovinne (talk) 00:09, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Lovinne, I very much agree about the sources. To me using open license text to create articles is a way of starting new good quality articles that other people can add additional information and sources to, the article is going to change over time anyway as the subject changes. --John Cummings (talk) 10:00, 6 June 2017 (UTC)