Talk:Water cure (torture)

Water Cure (torture) to differentiate from Water Cure (therapy)

This article is the renamed version of the article originally entitled Water Cure. Water cure has two primary definitions: one pertaining to therapy, and one pertaining to torture. However, the Water Cure article dealt only with one aspect, namely torture.

Unsurprisingly, this generated some discussion on the talk page. The talk in relation to this comprised two main issues.

1. On 16 July 2006, Ben Finn noted that Water Cure, as a form of torture, is in fact one specific form of the broader category of Water torture, and noted that the Water Cure article needed merging into, or at least reconciling with, the Water torture article. This appears to have been dealt with by reconciling the two articles, and is separate to the current renaming of this article, although it did precede the discussion pertaining to renaming of this article.
2. The second discussion that arose, on 2 June 2009, prompted by Kudpung (talk), led on from the first, and led to the current renaming. This discussion pertained to disambiguation or merging. It noted confusion arising from the fact that many people looking up Water Cure expect to find reference to a form of therapy. From this arose a discussion regarding renaming for disambiguation purposes: that is, to differentiate between water cure as a form of torture, and water cure as a form of therapy. Since an article called Water cure (therapy) already exists, the simplest option was the renaming of this article, which would then give the two primary definitions. That exercise is now complete.

The Water cure (therapy) article is itself impoverished, and better merged into the hydrotherapy article, but that is a separate issue, and a separate set of exercises.

• Link for the original Original merge/renaming proposal

Wotnow (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)Wotnow

It is not clear from the article when the slang term/euphemism for torture began to be used - at least outside the US army, which appears to have invented the term, if not the practise. This term is however a euphemism. Would it not be better to retitle the article water torture?203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:35, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Other settings belong in other articles

The article lede says water cure victims are "forced to drink large quantities of water." I propose cases of voluntary fatal water intoxication, such as the Hold your Wee for a Wii contest, be deleted since this article is about the torture method and those incidents are already covered more appropriate articles. Blackguard 22:32, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

And done. Blackguard 07:47, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Psychiatry

Psychiatry Patients used to be tortured with cold baths. I have seen black and white photos of the bathtubs, where there are leather straps on the tub to hold the patient in. Dr David Healy writes the discovery of anti-psychotics are a result of trying to stop patients from shivering from "ice therapy". http://davidhealy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Psychopharmacology-and-The-Government-of-the-Self.pdf Another reference easily found is Dr. Benjamin Rush book, year 1835 "Diseases of the Mind" quote from the book "Terror acts powerfully upon the body, through the medium of the mind, and should be employed in the cure of madness."