Talk:Waycross Air Line Railroad

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rlink2 (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that the route of the former Waycross Air Line Railroad is now an important CSX Transportation line? Source: Storey, Steve; Ray, David; McDaniel, Matt (November 2018). Historic Railroads of Georgia: A Historic Context Study and Evaluation of Georgia's Historic Railroads Appendix A: Atlanta, Birmingham & Coast Railroad (PDF) (Report). pp. 3–12.

"The former ABC, including the original route of its progenitor, the Waycross Air Line, has become the longest and thus principal piece of CSX’s main through-route from Jacksonville, Florida to Atlanta and points beyond, and thus from the south Atlantic coast to the nation’s interior. As such, numerous sections of the ABC trunk line now feature double-tracked segments, and much of its length now utilizes concrete rail ties, to better withstand the heavy traffic volume."

• QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Sallie House

5x expanded by Trainsandotherthings (talk). Self-nominated at 01:58, 23 February 2022 (UTC).

• @Trainsandotherthings: New enough but falls short by about 200 characters readable prose (1059 * 5 = 5295, and I'm getting 5064). Hook fact checks out and is cited. QPQ present. Just give me about 240 characters readable prose and this will be passable. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:20, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

  @Sammi Brie: Oops! I thought I was over the limit for a 5x expansion, but seems I wasn't. I've added some more to the article now so it should be over the limit (DYK tool says 5532 characters). Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

  That'll do it! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Waycross Air Line Railroad/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: FormalDude (talk · contribs) 02:45, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll post comments here as I complete the review, which may take up to seven days. Thanks! ––FormalDude talk 02:45, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Love the route map.

  Wish I could take credit, but it's from the former Fitzgerald Subdivision article, which I redirected into Waycross Air Line Railroad. It's not 100% accurate to all the WALR lines, but it's pretty close. I have zero clue as to how to make those maps. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

• Good job on the lede.
• In lede, add "(reporting mark ACL)" after Atlantic Coast Line Railroad.

  I can add it, but generally we don't list the reporting marks of every single railroad mentioned in an article. It's a bit confusing, as ACL can both be an abbreviation for "Atlantic Coast Line" and is also the reporting mark used by the railroad. My general practice is to simply use abbreviations for the railroads irrespective of if they match reporting marks. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

  Ah, I see. The abbreviation ACL is used in the second paragraph of the lede, so I though it would help clarify that that is the abbreviation of Atlantic Coast Line Railroad. I'll leave it up to you.

• Looks like there's some information about finances in the sources of the formation section, can that be incorporated into the article?

  Will look later today, can you be more specific? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

  Via citation 1: Noble Ray Willingham reported a total of $27,192 raised in Hasan with expenses of $1,800 in selling the Shrine magazine, Waycross was beat by Coffee County and Moultrie. Waycross raised $3,698 and Valdosta $231 with more work to do there. Nahunta contributed $270 to the Waycross total. ––FormalDude talk 00:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

  That's actually unrelated to the railroad. This article was published in 1975, and that section is referring to the events at a meeting of a group called "Shrine". The article then goes on to discuss the comments of the speaker at this meeting, who talked about the history of the Waycross Air Line Railroad and other railroads in Waycross (hence the title of the article, "Building of Rails Here Fascinating Story Says Pigge"). Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:27, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

• Legislation surrounding the early incorporation of the line? [1]

  I found that one myself while doing research, but decided not to include it. I have occasionally included this information in articles, but only when I also have information on when the legislation passed (a good example is Providence and Worcester Railroad); in this case I do not have that information. We do know when the company was chartered so I think that is sufficient. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

• Add Lake Ware to the location parameter of citation 1.

  For all of these, I thought the location parameter referred to the location of the newspaper itself? This newspaper was published in Waycross. Or am I misunderstanding? I usually don't fill this parameter but I have no objections to filling it, I just want to make sure I am doing it right. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Trainsandotherthings: My understanding is that these articles include a dateline which is supposed to be specified in the location parameter of the citation. ––FormalDude talk 23:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

  Okay, I've added all the ones you requested. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:22, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

• Add Fitzgerald, Georgia to the location parameter of citation 4.
• Add Fitzgerald, Georgia to the location parameter of citation 5.
• Add Thomasville, Georgia to the location parameter of citation 7.
• Add Waycross, Georgia to the location parameter of citation 8.

Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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