Talk:William Attaway

SFSU Class Project

Hello Group member: can everyone please jot down what they have in mind and we go from there? we need to gater everyone's thought and come up a "plan." Hello...--mv_tong 05:58, 14 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctong 630 (talk • contribs)

Stephanie: Literature Works Olivia: childhood, education, early life Rowena: later life, interviews, etc. Clara: literature, musicmv_tong 09:28, 23 October 2011 (UTC) Livringo (talk) 18:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey you guys...I just reviewed the "Blood on the Forge" page and they have a really good start so far. I'm thinking we can make sub-categories under our main topics. For example, under "Early Life" we can have a subsection such as "education" and "family." what do you guys think? Livringo (talk) 18:47, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, I just did a review for your page for the class assignment on Thursday (10/27) You guys are off to a great start, and your page led me to some good information for Blood on the Forge. Something you guys could work on is organizing the literary career section, which also includes information about his personal life. Maybe you guys could add more onto that and make it another section altogether. Also some information on his musical career would be good to have! Thanks! (Katiemcellistrim (talk) 23:01, 26 October 2011 (UTC))

Hey everyone, I just looked over the Rebecca Harding page and I liked how they added in a theme and style section on their page. I think since we're writing about an author we should include his signature style and the main themes he enjoyed writing about. stephpires (talk) 22:35, 26 October 2011 (UTC) —Preceding undated comment added 05:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC).

Things look great on this page. I really enjoy the range of subject matter. It feels very complete. Just watch out for over-linking. I took out most of the redundant links that were on the page. links should really only be used when subject matter needs more explanation then is proper to give on said page. For instance linking to Langston Hughes, who is a known but not entirely known author, is good because his importance is important to Attaway's growth. However linking heart failure for Attaway's heart failure does not enlighten us about the article. Furthermore most people know what a teacher is so linking the word teacher to the article teacher is just redundant and takes away from the article. Great Job though and great article!JHSlavin (talk) 07:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

adding Attaway's script worksmv_tong 00:22, 31 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctong 630 (talk • contribs)

I want to start off by saying your page has a lot of good material and sources. I wanted to check this page out because I am also editing an author page (Rebecca Harding Davis). While you guys have a lot of good information in the popular music section, I think adding two more sections on Attaway's style and theme would bring your page to the next level. Other than that, it seems like everything is in pretty good shape thus far. Their are a lot of interesting facts, like the script writing section, that really make this page more interesting. Good work guys! Annamini (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC).

Great page so far you guys. I think what I'm going to take away from it is the distinct difference between the list of works and a separate area for just works where you actually describe them. On the Barbra Neely page I tried to add a lot of information attached to her bibliography of works and that ended up getting taken off. I think I'll be using your page as an example on how to minimize the total amount of text and make it a bit more direct. I was wondering if you guys have gone through a similar problem, where you want to add a description for each individual song/work or did you guys just decide it would be better to mash up his entire career as a sort of theme/style? --Lgperdomo (talk) 17:11, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, I think your page is really well organized and definitely on its way to being a completed article. I thought I would take a look since my group is doing an author article as well ( Rebecca harding Davis). I think you guys have done a good job of gathering sources and covering the overall life experience of Attaway. However, I guess the only thing that I would suggest, which I just noticed Anna said also, is that you may want to think about adding a style and themes section. Other than that I think the article looks great! Genesse23 —Preceding undated comment added 01:24, 8 November 2011 (UTC).

Hey, I just read over your page for the review part of this assignment. I think your page is a really great start and and seems like its on its way to being done. I especially liked how you mentioned Attaway's influences in his early life that lead to him becoming a writer. I also found it useful that you guys separated his family/personal life from his literary career. I think there are a lot of things my group can learn from the way your page is organized. I think the only thing I would try to expand on is the influence his literary career had on society of his time and maybe critical response to some of the major themes he wrote about. (Katebelknap (talk) 06:34, 8 November 2011 (UTC))

Suggestions

Take a look at the very good [Stephen Crane] page. Some things you definitely need to add: something on A's major works (e.g. Let Me Breathe and Blood on the Forge). Some things you should seriously consider: major themes and something on style and technique. Am also wondering where Attway fits into the tradition(s) of Afro-American fiction/novel? Profhanley (talk) 16:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Contents section

We generally don't reprint a table of contents in a biography article. Viriditas (talk) 04:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Content removed

Please figure out a way to use reliable secondary sources to write about this material in prose form. We generally don't add unsourced lists of content titles with commentary unless it is accompanied by references and it is composed in prose form. Viriditas (talk) 02:09, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Calypso Song Book

• Contents

• What Is Calypso?

• Cordelia Brown(This Jamaican song has strong traces of blues, as well as other American influences.)

• Water Come a Me Eye(One of the lovlies of Jamaican love songs, sund in many versions throughout the Islands.)

• Banana Boat Loader's Song(A "digging" or work song from Jamaica, sung in several versions according to the particular job involved.)

• Matilda(In this well-known Jamaican song, the sudden disappearance of the heroine is hilariously mimicked in the refrain.)

• A Brand of Birds(A Jamaican version of a French Creole ballad dating back to the slavery era. It is sometimes known as "Come de bird.")

• Judy Drownded(A topical song which originated on St. Mary when the river swept a girl downstream. Her later rescue could not stop the rumors of her "drownding.")

• Hill and Gully Rider(A haunting Jamaican ballad, variously interpreted on the Antilles islands.)

• Nassau Bound(The mock-pathos of this famous Nasau sea chanty neatly parodies the whole mournful genre of shoipwreck ballads.)

• Mary Ann---

• Hosanna(In Jamaica, as in many parts of the world, the ceremony of house-building takes on a religious, almost ritual significance.)

• Brown Skin Girl(A relic from the American "invasion" of Jamaica during the last war.)

• Mongoose Dead Oh(Throughout the islands the mongoose symbolizes a sly, cunning individual. The "blackbird" we know by anothr ornithological title: shoot pigeon. Supposedly brought to Jamaica by the Haitian performer Tiroro, it has overtones of patois English.)

• Man Smart, Woman Smarter(Most famous of the innumerable Trinidad Calypsos concerning the eternal battle of the sexes.)
  

• Sotrm Warning(A boat in a hurricane provided the inspiration for this poetic ballad from St. Croix.)

• Big Bamboo(A typically Calypsonian view of womankind, from the Carnival tents of Trinidad.)

• Sweet Chacoun(A French patios song from Martinique. The name "Chacoun" usually refers to a capricious or unfaithful woman. The male equivalent, "T' Jon," can also be substituted.)

• Always One Rain(This melody can be traced back to a bloody pirate jingle. According to legend, it was first sung by the cuttbroat crew of Sir Henry Morgan.)

• Sound the Fire Alarm(There is no source of fresh water on St. Thomas except rain cisterns. Consequently the fire department's efforts provke a good deal of irreverent amusement.)

• Lemme Go, Melda Marcy(Meld a Marcy is a commonly used comic name in Jamaican folk songs.)

• Have You Heard?(In Jamaican patios, this work song is called "Las Kant Find" {"Lost and Cannot Be Found"}. It commemorates an actual, though unrecorded, boiler explosion on a sugar plantation, which killed several of the workers, as well as the hated overseer.

• Her Reputation(Another song of a soldier and a girl, dating from World War II.)

• Water in Me Rum(A drinking song from St. Thomas, originally titled "Capital Offense," for obvious reasons.)

• Lovely Cricket(The cricket is a popular symbol of happiness and good fortune. In this ballad the term conveys a more affectionate meaning.)

• Gimme Back My Shilling(Originated in Jamaica, but the melody has become widely popular not only in the West Indies, but in South America as well.)

• Fisherman's Song---

Hear America Singing

Contents

• Chapter one - In The Beginning
• Chapter Two - They Came To This Land
• Chapter Three - Early Colonial Times
• Chapter Four - We Were Always Growing
• Chapter Five - Stars and Stripes
• Chapter Six - Oceans, Lakes, Rivers and Streams
• Chapter Seven - Moving West
• Chapter Eight - Cowhands and Dogies
• Chatper NIne - Of African Descent
• Chapter Ten - In Our Day
• Bibliography
• About the Author

• Wow nice page guys and good job. You have good online and print sources. In my group, Rebecca Harding Davis, it looks as though all the potential online sources I read echoes the same information, so it's a bit of a challenge to find new info without repeating myself (GuizaO (talk) 18:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC))

• I like the organization of this page a lot! Great support for all of your analysis! I think that you could strengthen the section on Attaway's personal life by combining the information into paragraphs instead of using bullet formatting. Mikayla Moore —Preceding undated comment added 22:23, 10 November 2011 (UTC).

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:William Attaway/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Maclean25 (talk · contribs) 22:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Good article review (see Wikipedia:What is a good article? for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   See WP:LEAD. The lead section should summarize the contents of the entire article.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   One images used File:William Attaway.jpg claiming fair use. Do you know who the copyright holder is?

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Comments:

   I understand this is part of a class project: User:Profhanley/teaching/literature of labor.

   Replace the [clarification needed] tag with more detail [1]

   Address the {{refimprove}} tag at the top of the page by ensuring all sections have citations indicating where the information is coming from.

   You can properly (and consistently) format the references using the cite templates, like {{cite journal}}{{cite book}} {{cite web}}.

   Find a more scholarly reference than enotes.com. Where did resources did the enotes editor use to write that article?

Conclusion

I will continue the review if there is work done to address these above notes. If there is no response, I will fail the article. maclean (talk) 22:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

It has been 2 weeks with little done to address the identified issue. I am closing this review now. Due to the above issues the article currently does not meet the GA criteria. maclean (talk) 03:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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